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[rd]

"...someone pretend to be a policeman stopped her and at around that time the phones were disabled."

I don't have any good ideas, but I do know there's not much that makes sense so still probing and hope.

Concerning the relatively recent info that both phones were turned off and batteries removed, I googled just now asking what cell phones ping towers while turned off. The answer was none. I just do not believe the police / phone company know that the batteries were taken out in addition to being powered off. I think there is some miscommunication there and perhaps an overabundance of saying the phone was completely powered off (versus screen dark but pinging).

In any event, that is 1000x more info than was given in the beginning where I did not see any info on presence or absence of knowledge of ping records being obtained. The time given in recent info for powered off was I saw 10:20 or possibly 10:40, and this is shortly after concluding her phone call with Rob.

I think it's reasonable that she was getting friend's phone and turning off to save battery until it arrived back to owner. I think after concluding her late \evening phone calls that she would be putting her phone on charger. I would be surprised if she routinely slept at night with her cell phone turned off unless she had a landline that family / friends could call at night in an emergency, I didn't see anything on it early on. By turning it off it would charge faster and then maybe she turned it on when going to bed. This is something Rob and family know, probably several posters have talked about it.

I do not think it's reasonable that someone gained entrance to her condo within minutes of hanging up, subdued her, and acquired both her phone and another phone in the condo and removed the batteries. That wouldn't even be an issue until leaving, and there would be no reason to bring the other phone. Nor a good reason to bring hers which required battery be removed (to be sure it's powered off).

Although I originally thought she went out to deal with sending phone (and police also initially suggested that), I do not think it's possible that she left with her phone powered off. If she was overpowered in her parking lot there could be a relatively short time between the two phones being powered off, her turning off the friend's phone and someone else turning off her phone. Since the phone company apparently had ping records for police to be able to say this, they would know how far apart in time the phones were powered off.

It is not a big deal that the phone pings were recorded from more than one tower. This happens, this is pretty standard stuff and nothing of interest I need to google to refresh my memory, but it doesn't mean two places at same time. It means the phone (one or the other or both) switched tower it was talking to to another tower within range and then switched back.

It's reasonably possible she drove 15 minutes or so to get to an overnight delivery store and was assaulted in a parking lot at which time her phone would have been disabled. I did a search back then and there was a 24 hour store (FedEx type) about that distance away. Someone has posted that she would have sent from work and we had an in depth discussion on that back then. I have never seen that and would ask (1) had she sent overnights from work before?, and (2) what account would it be sent on? The company's, and she paid them so they could apply to bill, or how did that work since it was said she had sent packages that way before and that's how she would have sent the phone.

I do not think it's reasonable that armed security wearing clothes like the poi (including helmet clothes more or less consistent with bike patrol) would stop a car or somehow order someone to pull over. On other hand I don't know that he was dressed that way when abducting Jennifer, could have been like most LE imposters and had a flashing light in car and pulled her over. He could have dressed as bike security for purpose of dumping car somewhere that pointed toward other people and away from him, ie a nearby to Jennifer apartment parking lot.

It's also possible that he wasn't the abductor and was duped to park a car and doesn't know people are looking for him, of course no one knows, they're looking for a 5'4 illegal laborer who fled the country so that hardly is going to get a security guard's attention that it's really him being looked for. They'd have to read pretty deep in this thread to know.

rd

[Rainbow]

Thank you so much, rd, for "consolidating" some of the conclusions you have drawn as to potential suspects, based on your analyses so far. I have a question for you. . . What would be a good strategy for publicizing the image of the poi that you managed to obtain from all of your hard work involving photo imaging, so it doesn't remain "buried" on this site?

[rd]

thanks, Rainbow. There's more coming.

I have more work to do on the Blowup page first. There are dozens of people often a day that click on that link and don't feel compelled to register and comment here or elsewhere that's been brought to my attention. These are real people, not just search bots and other spider sites, and clearly I have not made it clear what they are looking at to the degree that they looked.

I thought it was sufficient for law enforcement to take a look and see what they missed but clearly that isn't sufficient.

I'm going to explain clearer what we have and what is needed and we'll go from there. And I am trying to get this work done because Chandra's trial is rapidly approaching as we well know.

rd

[Vivian]

I have been reviewing different forums this week and listening to Kesse interviews on Youtube and have learned two new things pertaining to Jennifer's phone....

On the Top Cop interview with Drew he stated that Logan's friend Travis had asked Jennifer to overnight his phone to him....Jennifer told him she was tired from driving from Fort Lauderdale that morning and from working for 10 hrs and she was too tired to overnight it but would mail it from work on Tuesday....I for one had never heard this...

Jennifer could have very well changed her mind and decided to go out to overnight the phone or whatever but it is doubtful because she was too tired and it was her routine when she came home , she was in for the night....Also, she rarely went out alone at night per Drew....

Something else that pertains to her phone being turned off....1-in
the 10 years that Jennifer had had a cell phone her parents stated that it had never , not once gone to voicemail and 2-she used her cell phone as an alarm clock....

I just do not see Jennifer turning her cell phone off as she used it as an alarm clock and she was very safety conscious.....

Just my thoughts....

[rd]

That's interesting info, Vivian. Thanks.

One issue is that overnighting is about the same no matter what time you get the package in or picked up. Whether she went out after 10 to a 24 hour FedEx store or went to a store the next day or had it picked up from work early enough the package would still be delivered overnight on Tuesday to arrive on Wednesday.

The issue wasn't getting out there at that time, it was taking care of it when she could because otherwise she would have to take care of during work. It's not a given that a person can take care of something like that from work, but we had a poster here close to family that said she did intend to send from work and was not a problem. And here we have Drew confirming that. Thanks for quote.

I would say the remainder is highly dependent on other info that has been given, which isn't much. As I understand it one was that both phones were, let us use a neutral term, disabled somewhere around 10:20 to 10:40 pm. (I think I saw both those times mentioned.) This is 20 to 40 minutes after she said goodnight to her boyfriend on the phone. Don't know/recall the exact time that call ended, around 10 pm I believe.

The info was that the batteries were pulled out, and I wrote above some thoughts on how I didn't know how you could tell the difference between 1) powered off or 2) batteries removed (which in my mind was another step after powered off, going further and removing batteries.)

However... as I sit here now I can see that batteries removed while the cellphones were on would eliminate a power off sequence that is almost certain to be the case that a cell phone sends some termination signal as part of its shutdown when powered off. Doesn't take much. Just one character that isn't part of normal ping sequence sent when powering down would identify power down.

If that sequence is missing and pinging stops, then by definition batteries were removed. With one phone you could have had a battery going dead, which still would be a little different with fading at end imo, but with two phones where pings stop at same time and no power off sequence, only answer is batteries removed without powering off the phones first. That's essentially an abductor doing that.

I think the possibility of someone breaking into her condo, overcoming her, finding both her phone and the other phone and removing the batteries, and bringing the dead phones and all her stuff with her as they abduct her are next to zero.

You could have some elaborate staging thing I guess where it is to look like she left of her own will yet no phone pinging to show her location but that is really elaborate, what kind of abductor would do that? And for that matter, what kind of abductor would remove her from her condo anyway?

That leads to the other item, a comment about not being able to be in two places at once. This refers to pings switching from one cell tower to another and back relatively quickly. The key to this is time. Was this after 10 pm and just before the phones were disabled? Was the phone call all one tower but then after that bounced between a couple of towers?

That would indicate movement and a change of mind after the goodnight phone call, to go send the phone after all, yet being abducted within minutes after leaving,

The two phone items of information strongly imply she left with the friend's phone after she said goodnight to Rob, while two quotes from her (will mail from work and doesn't like to go out late at night) strongly imply she would not go out to take care of sending the phone.

Whether in her condo or out of it, an abductor who finds those two phones and removes the batteries is a technically savvy criminal, not a neophyte and most certainly not an illegal immigrant painter.

rd

[Vivian]

RD,

No matter what you believe whether she was abducted on Monday night or Tuesday morning the phones have to be considered.....If she used her phone as an alarm clock , why would she turn it off? The only thing that I can come up with the pinging phones pinging in two separate directions was there were two perpetrators(which I believe)....I believe all of this went down after her call to Rob...Whether someone was hiding in her condo while she was talking and decided to make a move after Rob's call or if someone used a key that they had made or someone she knew knocked on her door...

I believe that her apartment could have been staged to make it look like she had gotten up and gotten ready for work and left in order to buy the perpetrators time and to throw OPD off ....The wet shower and the damp towel does not convince me that Jennifer was the one to use them....

The mans's sweater found in Jennifers clothes hamper I think was the perpetrator's calling card saying "I was here"!

I cannot believe that Jennifer's car was used to transport her anywhere without some transfer of dna....if she had been knocked out, tased I feel that there would have been blood, saliva, urine , vomit found in her car....She could not have been placed in the trunk as Drew has said that the trunk was full because Jennifer was a car slob....I just think two vehicles were used ....

I looked at your enlarged photo's of the POI , I am amazed but I can see the face of the POI as he turns....It looks like NASA or the FBI could do something with that image to make it clearer....you did a great job....for me to see it it had to be relatively clear....

Some of my thoughts....

[rd]

Thanks for those thoughts on the images. To be honest I don't think NASA or the FBI could get much more out of it than I did. There's not much to work with. I do know the organizations have taken a look at my blowups but they would need to start with the originals as I did and do what I did but better. They do know what's there though.

It is all about the phones. :) What I'm saying is is that it is unlikely someone broke into her condo a few minutes after she hung up, overcame her, and then went looking and found both her phone and a friend's phone and removed the batteries. That just isn't part of a break in to do that.

Why would someone somehow enter her condo, incapacitate her, and then immediately start searching for any phone in the condo to remove the batteries? They would have had to find the friend's phone in a bag or attache case or something. And it happened 20 to 40 minutes after she hung up, so it's immediate after a break in.

Let me explain about pinging with multiple towers. The range for your cell phone might be a mile and a half. There could be more than one cell tower surrounding you within range. Your phone is pinging one tower that has control (a phone call to you will be sent to that tower) but a ping is seen by another tower. That tower may signal that it now has control of your cell phone and let's the phone company know. A call at this time to you would be sent to that tower. But that is only temporary as ping is seen stronger by first tower and it signals phone company it's in control of your phone again.

That is seen as moving around but it's just cell towers switching back and forth on taking control of your phone (the tower that phone company should send a call to to ring your phone) when you haven't moved at all maybe. Or you're moving a little, driving down a street, and the control bounces between a couple of towers (two places at once). It's not two places at once, it's two towers within range at same time.

All of that leads me to believe she did leave after she hung up and drove towards a FedEx store, and was abducted by an experienced or at least prepared criminal.

The alternative of breaking into her condo, finding both phones and removing the batteries immediately, and then at some point removing Jennifer and all her stuff as she would have done presumably to make her look like she left on her own and disappeared just doesn't make any sense to me.

It's possible, but her leaving with her stuff and being abducted, where the phones do have to have the batteries removed immediately as the abductor(s) drive her car away, is the only thing that makes sense.

I know she said she'd mail it the next day, but all indications are she went out the door with all her stuff right after she said goodnight to Rob.

Maybe a detail I don't know about would change what makes sense.

rd

[Vivian]

I think she may have had the telephones, iPOD,wallet, her favorite snakeskin pumps in her briefcase...I say this because I worked with women at BCBS who did not carry a purse ....they carried everything they needed in their briefcase....

I have even thought that if anyone would be interested in her briefcase it would be the coworker, might have even liked her snakeskin shoes as well...he may have had access to her keys as well as she may have left her car /condo keys on her desk when she went to meetings elsewhere in the company...

As far as your pictures, have you tried a (I do not know how to spell this) cepeatone(brownish color) I saw these same pictures on another site except for the face one in the brownish tone and it really seemed to make things clearer....For example, I was never able to make out the shape of his right hand until I saw it in the brownish tone....with that color , I could make out that the POI's hand appears wrapped around something like keys for example....

This week I have been Googling all of the search sites, what do you think that OPD has that makes them concentrate only in areas less than five miles from the Mosaic sort of Southwest from there other than Jennifer's car did not seem to have been driven far....I also read an interview with Drew on Nancy Grace where he said that Jennifer did her grocery shopping and used a dry cleaner in Windmere and he has always wondered why none of the areas near Windmere have been checked....You have to remember that there is a possibility that Jennifer's mace/FOB/key were found in Windmere by some walkers in the area three years after she disappeared per BOC.....I think that it is possible that Jennifer may have thrown these items out in Windmere as she would think that her father would recognize the leather mace case/cannister since he bought it for her....Maybe?

[rd]

maybe. Those are some good thoughts.

Regarding the clenched hand, I'm the one that found it along with everything else when I was working on the Blowups. Look on the Blowup page for the clenched hand holding a taser.

Right above it, one fence post over, above the white, is the clenched hand holding in my opinion the gun that is not in the holster I picture in several other images.

I didn't alter the pictures in any way by adding anything because it would add to the disbelief in what I found. Of course anyone can take my pictures and highlight aspects of them to help people see what's there, but the originals are on my site for reference.

thanks for the thoughts.

rd

[Vivian]

My brain has a block with these pictures as I cannot see the things that all of you say is there....I am not saying they are not there, I just cannot find these things ...I am going to go back and view them again and see if I can find a taser/gun...

I have noticed something black that appears to be coming from around the left leg on the POI , have never figured out what that could be...do you know what I am talking about?

Thanks...

Vivian

[rd]

yes, I do. It's almost like a kneepad. If it weren't for the back of the helmet that's shaped like a bicycle helmet I would say he was dressed more like a SWAT officer.

The hand holding the taser is a picture I inserted as I did several other pictures to help visualize what's in the images. Look for the picture of the hand holdin a taser, then in the image above, one rail over, up a little above the white, is the clenched hand.

[Vivian]

In the photo with the man's face, can that be made clearer someway? It definitely looks like a man's face to me....

[rd]

no, with the nature of enlarging, I enlarge (blow up, zoom in, etc.) as much as I can where any more makes it blurrier. There is very little info in the image, no one even saw that face (or anything else I found) for more than a year. I didn't even look at the images until 2007. The face was one of the last things I found. There's not that much there.

But you're welcome to try yourself. You know exactly where the face is. Take the original third still and you will want to clip out a section that includes the poi looking back from the tree. Enlarge by various magnifications, try various adjustments of brightness and/or contrast, and see if you can make it clearer for you.

That's what I did for all three stills for months in 2007 in my spare time. You will not get any government effort like what I put into it, they just don't have the time.

But at least they could act on it when someone does the work for them.

rd

[Vivian]

RD,

I am totally computer illiterate....I wish that I did have your skills with video/pictures....I am amazed at what you did....

On the face, what is that around his head do you think? Is that a hat or a sweatband? It almost looks like bangs but looking above the slightly darker area looks like the top of his head....

It looks like as ignorant as I am that someone could take this picture that you have worked on and clear it up.....NASA has two buggies on Mars, surely they have the capability to clear a blurred photo....

Thanks for sharing these photo's ...

Vivian

[rd]