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[CM7]

You guys/gals have posted some interesting info here... however I have gone over the blow-ups and I'll have to say you have good eyes to see a tazer and a badge. I just can't see it but the thing about the helmet, I think you might have hit that one on the head. I have looked at the pics before and couldn't tell anything but that they looked really weird, but the helmet and comfortable looking shoes suggesting that this person uses their feet or is often on foot or bike.... very interesting, because it fits well into my theory... and yes, I do have a bit of a hunch on this case.

Before I start rambling, let me explain my position. I was living in an adjacent county when all this happened in 06. I was somewhat of a shut-in (still am) after developing asthma in 05 from a poorly constructed paint booth for industrial paint in a company in Daytona. Sucks for me but anyway. I kind of had a collapse and being unemployed did not know where to go from there. I lived with my parents and had no car and due to my own unfortunate run-ins with crazy people in this world, I was kind of afraid to walk anywhere even in my neighborhood. Needless to say I was watching quite a bit of TV and feeling a bit distraught. This girl went missing and something about this story really hit me and I could not stop thinking about it. I don't want to get into all the details of any hunches because quite frankly, I was treated rather rudely by the guy who answered the phone on the information line for this case. Even in an absence of leads or more facts, most people simply do not want to hear anything someone like me has to say... but about me, I have some pretty interesting stories to tell about my perception of things that have come to pass in this world, but I will skip all of that... it's not what's important here. I always feel a insecure anxious need to explain myself because of the complete lack of respect I often get every single time I walk out my front door, but back to those who have bigger issues to deal with.

I would also like to add that I understand that when someone offers a substantial amount of money for information, all of the sudden, everyone seems to want to give info whether they have real info or not, but please note that I have always been aware that the $100,000 reward reserved for her safe return was meant for her SAFE return.
Unfortunately, it has been over 2 years since her disappearance and sadly, I do not think Jennifer will be coming home.

My interest in this case revolves solely around the simple fact that I cannot get certain things out of my head and if someone did something to this girl, which I think involves someone who became obsessed with her, that person needs to be found. They cannot be allowed to get away with this. Period.

Some recent reminders have taken me back to this missing person's case and I find that she has still not been found.... and here I go again... thinking about it into the wee hours of the night but knowing there is an answer out there.

First the facts before the hunches and please correct me if I am wrong.
Jennifer got up to get ready for work, took a shower and pulled some clothes out to decide what to wear.

How many of you get up in the morning, go unlock your door and then get in the shower? Hopefully none. I certainly wouldn't. Again, correct me if I am wrong but she left her purse behind. She had planned to come back before heading to work. perhaps she went to a store for something she needed, but without her purse?... perhaps... but ~maybe~ someone who she knew without a car (normally on a bike) knocked on her door and gave her some line and as a kind favor agreed to run them down the street real quick... and that is the point when she unlocked the door. Willingly. Someone she was not afraid but not a significant enough acquaintance for her normal circle of friends and family to even know about... maybe someone she had seen in the neighborhood who had made efforts to talk to her, but who did not have her number or any such info to where she could be bothered by him... only knowing where she lived. For theory's sake, she agrees to the favor and somehow it becomes something altogether different between her house and the destination that is perhaps alarmingly close to where she lived. Perhaps it was an intentional pre-meditated murder or perhaps it was what was supposed to be an abduction, or maybe a fight ensued, or maybe an accident happened, but the POI knows he now (and I do believe it is male) has to get rid of her car because they are going to be looking for it soon, so he brings it to a location close to her house perhaps to a location close to where he left his bike... when he ditched it to walk on foot to her condo to ask for a ride with some excuse like it was stolen.
If this is a feasible theory then it furthers the idea that they KNEW each other. Maybe he was merely trying to get her alone and not actually take her life but something went wrong? Either way, it seems very likely he had planned this out... and I certainly agree that from the tape he is booking it out of there. He is in quite a hurry for someone who has done nothing wrong.

Not so sure if I think it is related to her work, or her bf, but rather a nobody who was not happy with his status, but that he did indeed know her.

That is merely the tip of the ice burg of my theory. It keeps going to a point that after two years, still has the ability to keep me up at night thinking there must be some answer and some way to help shed even a glimpse of light on this. It even involves an armed robbery that occurred not far from that area that I think could be involved in the suspects attempt to flee the US from a Tampa airport across the gulf to Mexico. I called the information line in 06 when it became, in my opinion, clear that they in some way knew each other... somehow. Someone answered the phone and I think I might have started the conversation with something about seeing this case on the news, which (and this part I am certain of) was followed by my inquiry about Jennifer's female friends and acquaintances. If it is someone she knew, they managed to slip completely under the radar, but I considered that if she ever socialized in clubs or lounges with her friends that perhaps this POI had been casually invited to be introduced to any one of her single friends... if even just for a split second such as "Hi, this is so-n-so" in dimly lit crowded club and then POI gets the hint, is frustrated at the deferred rejection and walks off into the crowd.....?? Not saying this actually happened but it's possible. Very possible and if the chance has it that it did, I would like to compare this info to who I think might be a possible suspect. perhaps a momment so fleeting followed by, "who was that?"...."just some guy, don't really know him that well"... and it's forgotten. Things like this happen ALL the time in social get-togethers! None of that would be of much help unless a name or face is remembered and I imagine the description which would follow, had this happened, would be way too vague to tell anyone anything... unless someone already had a person in mind as to who this might be to compare it to... and I do have someone in mind... an armed robbery suspect arrested in that area not too long after she went missing.

Hunches are not something you can just spit out. They have to be walked around carefully and methodically allowing one point to lead to another, careful not to jump to conclusions and this was the reason for the question I asked the man who answered the phone on the information line... who much to my discouragement, before I even got done speaking the first sentence of the question!... retorted with "*BIG SIGH*.....We have people working on this and I assure you they are looking into all this.... if you have any actual information about where she might be, THEN you can call us back"

*click*

I know I may be a somewhat annoying person to talk to at times but I was stunned by this. Completely stunned! It almost made me feel that the person on the phone was guilty of something!... but I considered issues with bad info due to a lofty reward and am now just left to think "Gee, what an a$$hole"

Small details on their own may be next to nothing, but in parallel... they may tell quite a story. I have seen it too many times in my life.

The clothes... Could it be possible he took her clothes, put them on to get in her car without spreading any evidence he was there? If so, it worked... did it not? They found nothing... or that's what we are told. In around 30 seconds he must have been able to assure himself he did not leave any traces... but did not linger even a full minute to double-check.

There are other things that may sound too crazy to mention at the moment and guesses are just that... guesses, but there is one guy in particular I would love to have more info on in light of this case. It would be completely unethical for me to point a guessing finger, even if it is a good guess at anyone on a public forum without more substantial proof... and I think that proof might be there, it is just unattainable to me from my position... and we don't ask the police questions and they don't give us the info... THEY ask the question and WE give the info, so long as it undoubted fact. Everybody knows that's how it goes. I don't want to make myself sound as though I have something against the police but like anything in life, no one is perfect and there are bad apples in every bunch. I am certain that someone is working as hard as they can on this case. It is just unfortunate they are out of leads. Perhaps it would not hurt to at least look into some guesses. What is there to lose but maybe a small amount of time if the guesses are wrong?

Let me close by saying this... and I do apologize for my wordiness but I have always felt the net to be a place where I could say what was on my mind in a world where it seems people everywhere are just refusing to listen.

My last thoughts for now until something else turns up that might make me feel comfortable in bringing to light another one of my mere hunches is this.

I say the suspect is a blonde.

I am curious to know what anyone thinks about this.

[rd]

hi CM7. That's a good first post. Lots to think about. I won't try to address all the points. I'd like to address the factual issues.

Concerning the images.

taser - Below the blowup of first still, I have a picture of a hand holding a taser. Look above and you can clearly see a hand with four clenched fingers and thumb grasping an elongated object. The object is partially covered by a fence rail. The object itself is not clearly identifiable as a taser, but it is elongated, clenched on the end by his hand, and there is an empty holster seen in second still.

holster - There are several details that are clearly seen of the holster. The overall shape matches up to sample holsters I posted, with a solid shape and sharp edges for the most part. There is also a V shaped leg strap, perfect in every detail.

Of particular interest is a belt loop that rises from the holster and slants back up to the belt. The detail is so clear that one can see the beveled edges of the loop connector at waist height, with the strap coming down from it to the holster.

shoes - The shoes are more than comfortable, they clearly appear to be very similar to the biking shoe picture I posted below it. In addition, and very importantly, are the white athletic socks. That black biking shoe - white athletic socks is regulation military from one manual I looked at online. I was never able to find it again to reference, but I believe it was an Air Force manual for uniforms and was in the section on bike patrol uniforms.

More importantly, I posted a picture of a bike patrol security guard wearing exactly that same uniform with biking shoes and white athletic socks and long pants tapered at the ankle, with thigh strap holster. That is an extremely rare uniform, but is exactly what I had found in the surveillance photos and described for months before I finally found a law enforcement picture to match it. And a south Florida security guard company to boot which is helpful. But they had compliance problems documented within a few months after Jennifer disappeared and were out of business a year later.

badge/shoulder patch - There is a large superimposed shape of a Florida sheriff's patch in the shoulder area of the suspect in second still. The surveillance camera has such a long exposure with typical settings that it doesn't handle a moving arm that well. And there are discrepancies in relative sizes, with the shoe for example as well. But the shape at shoulder height is that of a law enforcement patch, I posted some different kinds at the bottom of the page.

The badge is seen in the third still, again distorted in relative size. The shape perfectly matches a police shield badge, that typically labelled Deputy Sheriff as in the picture I posted. It is also used by New York City police and EMS, and DoD.

It's actually a problem, because a security guard told me the other day that it is a shape not allowed to be used by security guards. It also isn't a shape used by Orlando area law enforcement. As far as I know, the suspect is a police imposter, I've posted about several that have been busted in last year, a disturbing number, but none that resembled the suspect.

One could dismiss each item taken separately, but one cannot argue with the cumulative effect of shape after shape of an identified bike patrol security guard uniform for both a security guard company and DoD, and accompanying law enforcement equipment. The usual has been considered, carrying bag, cell phone, iPod, etc., but when you examine the detail closely you realize that that is people plugging what they expect over dark areas they haven't examined in detail in these blowups.

Concerning Jennifer that morning.

You put too much emphasis on clothes laid on the bed, time unknown for that, and not enough on Jennifer not calling Rob as she did every morning and not being available to answer his call. What little I gleaned from an early interview is that Jennifer would have called somewhere in the 6 to 6:30 timeframe.

I have seen no one give the consideration needed to something Jeniifer did every morning but didn't do the morning she disappeared. For any objective investigator, that would be item number one, but this has always been clouded by emotion and a fixation on a Latino bad boy construction worker by police, so item one has essentially been dismissed because it didn't make sense.

The purse was not left behind. Nothing that indicated she had not left was left behind. I contend it is possible that she went out in casual clothes to get the cell phone sent off at a FedEx when they opened at 6am, not particularly sure of any great benefit in doing that versus leaving a bit early for work and making a detour to go by a FedEx. One thought is that it is opposite direction from work to the FedEx on Orange Blossom, so possibly drive there and get it shipped and then drive back and get dressed and go to work. There is one on Kirkman that would be a detour and possibly just as much out of the way to work.

Also completely dismissed by nearly everyone, can't think of anyone outside our board that has given it attention needed, is that the other thing different about the day Jennifer disappeared was the need to overnight a cell phone to her brother's friend. This is not a trivial requirement. It is completely dismissed by people who have no limit to the amount of time to speculate on construction workers, as oh she would take care of that at work type dismissal. Just absolutely amazing that they put that much effort into it and dismiss the obvious. Gets in the way of the way funner speculation, I guess.

Concerning friends of Jennifer.

What I would say about that is that we have three stills of the suspect. When the police get serious about figuring out what law enforcement uniform the suspect is wearing or has rigged up as an imposter, then we'll make progress on finding Jennifer.

Thanks for your thoughts, CM7, perhaps others can offer their take on your suggestions.

rd

[CM7]

I will have to look again at the pictures, I just can't make out the shapes, but then again... at first, I couldn't make much out of any of the pictures.
About the pictures, in the one where he has passed the gate, the back of his hair sticking out from beneath what I also now believe is a bike helmet... or what appears to be hair, or where hair would normally be... looks dark, but it's not unusual for the roots of light hair to look dark in some light, but the picture where he before the gate, the back of his hair look light enough to be the roots of blonde hair. Although dark hair could have certain light cast upon it to look lighter, it would more likely just be a shimmer or glare where the light hits it most... but at that time of day the sun would overpower most other lights and no significant artificial lights would be out to cast such a light on dark hair in the first place... except the sun from above.

The way his hair looks to me is medium to light roots of light overall hair that might even have some gel in it to get the back to lay down like some guys do. As for a latino guy... hmmm...seems awfully fair to me. Not that some latinos do not have skin that is more fair than most latinos, but that is just not what I'm seeing in the picture. That's my take on that.

Perhaps he is ex military and picked up this kind of dressing from that. It seems that some men carry a sense of pride in dressing in a somewhat uniform manner that they have picked up along the way... or like you say, active or a deliberate meditated imposter. Maybe he had a source for the things you see in the pics and carried them for protection if his main mode of transportation was a bike. Maybe he had no DL because of a DUI or something and a sense of shame caused him to play up the military bit or whatever it was he was portraying... and wanted to look more important. Skinheads do the exact same thing but that's a totally different look with many variations... however many are trying to portray some sense of importance they never had... or no longer have. Another thought is that he was indeed affiliated with something or ex-affiliated or had some source for such garb and ventured out to take her car back and dressed this way in the process, in case he was stopped, questioned or found out in some way and would then try to say he intended to help her (only AFTER the fact of secretly hurting her) because he was trained, had some type of authority, knew what he doing and had good intentions... a perhaps weak but desperate last resort to cover himself from his deed.

Well, that's a lot of maybes but I always think it's important to consider all, while trying not to get too stuck on one thing, but having said that... I still think he is of a character trying to be more than what he was afraid he actually was in life and went on to handle it in the worst of ways... and that certainly doesn't rule out imposter.

I read on the site solely about Jennifer that the shower was still wet and thought I had read she had left her purse behind. I will have to go back over everything because I am missing some details and had completely forgotten about the cell phone but now recall something about it being mentioned. It does seem a bit odd, but I am not one to say anything about her routine... only that I, personally, get up extra early on very few occasions to go out of my way to do anything. I'm more of a "try not to speed while I pour coffee down my throat hoping the lights are all green and try to take care of extra stuff on my lunch break when I'm more awake" kind of person... but clearly the gal wasn't a slacker.
I read she spoke to her loved ones the night before and assume she slept in her bed and had sprawled the clothes out in the morning... but now that you bring up the cell phone, it is totally obvious that if she shipped it, she was safe until that point.

So now my question goes back to- Did she know him or was this just completely random.

Her car was brought, what... within 2 miles of her residence?
It is late and I will need to read back up on all the details as I have forgotten many of them over the past two years.

Was the close proximity coincidence? Close to the fedex? or somewhere along the way denoting a possible en-route car jacking from someone completely and totally unknown to her? Whether or not he knew her draws or does not draw an important line somewhere amidst the sum of all possibilities.

I will have a second look at the addresses when I have slept.

What was so important about the cell phone anyway?
In a way I can understand, in a way I have to say "you can pick a cheap one up at any Wal-Mart".... I guess it's all about perception.

I lost a pre-paid one time... no biggie.
I thought I lost my LG rumor another time and thought I might need to go to the ER for cardiac arrest.
I have been doing independent contacting work in the last year and when I get a text I have next to no time at all to get on my computer, enter a security code, my 90 second timer starts until I can read the work order and accept before any other service provider in my area snatches it. If I loose my cell I can change my number in my profile but any companies I have previously worked for who might want to send me and only me (which makes the possibility of getting work so much easier) a work order...if they use the past number they might have on file and can't reach me.... they just might route it to someone they can get a hold of.

It's hard to comment on that one.
To some it's not so important, to others... it's a life line.
Maybe the friend did not insist, but maybe she was kind and wanted to assist johnny-on-the-spot as a show of timeliness and competence... displaying her own good work habits and eagerness to get a job done.
I just dont know without more details.
Didn't it somehow get left with her on the vacation... I will read up.
Maybe she liked to eat breakfast in the morning... did she prepare it herself? If so, maybe she thought to herself... I'll stop and get an Egg McMuffin or something on the way and take care of breakfast while I run this errand... regardless of whether or not she came back to the condo... although if she did or not, I think is important.

So many possibilities.

and please excuse my tendency to question/imagine/question/imagine/question/question/question....

My dear mother used to dub me "40 questions"....saying I always hit her with 40 questions when she walked through the door.

My gut still questions the robbery suspect.
It's his face, a feeling, and a series of nightmares that will be forever etched in my mind.

[rd]

Yes, you need to know the details very well to account for them and the possibilities that morning. For example, it is irrelevant whether one thinks that Jennifer shouldn't have had to overnight the cell phone that day. She was asked by her brother to do it, and she told her brother she would do it.

The next step from that is figuring out how she would do that. For example, how would you do it? You have to know the details very well to know the constraints on your answer.

Concerning the pictures, people need to focus on specific areas to be able to recognize objects. It took me weeks of work to do it. However, once recognized, all a person has to do now is focus on one specific area at a time, for example the area in first still of the clenched hand.

That isn't the way people normally operate, but is necessary in this case.

rd

[jane]

Hi CM - about the purse - I believe there is a picture of Jennifer's purse, hanging from a chair, if I remember correctly. It was posted on her site in hopes that it might jog someone's memory. I'm wondering whether that is what is making you think her purse was left behind?
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[J4J]

Could Clemente Garcia be the man responsible for Jennifer's disappearance? The blurry picture of a man turning to look back at the spot where he parked her car shows an elongated face. See Garcia here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/orl-photo-clemente-garcia-061308,0,2430532.photo

When I first looked at the blurry photo, I thought "This guy looks very young, almost nerdy. Like a kid." And now Garcia's photo with his elongated, nerdy, young face. Goes to show, violent people do not look violent. They sometimes are wolves in sheep's clothing.

[rd]

It's in the realm of possibility, J4J. I've seen that picture before. Who is the guy and why are you suggesting it?

rd

[J4J]

The guy is Clemente Garcia, arrested for the 2007 rape of a woman near UCF in Orlando, Florida. His DNA tied him to this rape. They are looking at him in connection with the Nicole Ganguzza murder also close to UCF in Orlando. In my opinion he looks a lot like the suspect in the video of Jennifer Kesse's car being parked. I have looked at the videos so many times that I've felt for some time I would recognize this person of interest should I see him. So when I saw Garcia's picture, I just felt like the puzzle pieces were coming together. But, perhaps I am the only one who feels this way.

If he were the one in the videos parking her car, perhaps we are looking in the wrong place for Jennifer. Perhaps he used that 5 hour window of her disappearance to bring her where he was most comfortable, in an area close to where the other girls were assaulted.

[rd]

Ok, thanks J4J. While you were posting I was searching on Clemente Garcia. We discuss him on page 14 of this thread and have his picture posted.

http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3402&start=195

I'm not up on whether he was connected to or alibied for the murder several months later of Nicole Ganguzza found in that area. Nor am I up on whether he was alibied for January 2006 when Jennifer disappeared. He was 17 at the time, and he should be able to be ruled out if he was attending school that day.

Certainly he needs to be investigated, and if he murdered and hid Nicole Ganguzza, and quite frankly whoever did, would be a prime suspect in Jennifer's disappearance.

I did a search on Nicole and don't have any folowup on the investigation of her murder in this thread. I'll do a search, unless you know if someone was charged with her murder.

I found this info. Excellent work.

rd


http://www.mahalo.com/Nicole_Ganguzza

(excerpt)

# Police searched the mobile home of a person of interest in March 20092
# The person is a former county parks department employee who used to work on the trail2
# He resigned a week after Ganguzza died2

Person of Interest

The person whose mobile home police searched in March 2009 resigned from his job as county parks employee a week after Ganguzza died. He was a computer programmer and said he was going to look for temporary jobs until finding another job in computer programming. He often jogged and rode his bicycle along the trail, where he also worked.4

Clemente Garcia

After Ganguzza was found dead, investigators said they were exploring a possible connection to a pair of assaults that took place in the same area of Orange County, in 2006 and 2007.5 In both cases, the victim was a female jogger who were sexually assaulted while jogging, but managed to escape. 5 On June 12, 2008, police arrested Clemente Garcia and charged him with sexual battery in relation to the 2007 assault. 6 The man whose mobile home police searched on March 2009 is not Garcia and had no previous criminal record.2


Citations
2 ↑ 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 CNN: Police may be close to suspect in jogger's slaying (March 24, 2009)
4 ↑ Orlando Sentinel: Investigators search home looking for clues in UCF jogger's death (March 5, 2009)
5 ↑ 5.0 5.1 MyFox Orlando: Missing Orlando Woman's Body Found (June 11, 2008)
6 ↑ The Orlando Sentinel: Arrest made in '07 Econ Trail rape (June 12, 2008)

[J4J]

RD: Per your suggestion I am copy/pasting my initial email to you in the hope that others will look at some of these figures to determine if police were correct in suspect's height. It occurs to me that someone good at math might be able to figure out his height, shoe size, etc., from looking at the placement of his feet relative to the bars/slats on the gate. I did not take the measurement of the actual sign on the gate nor its placement. I have a gut feeling this is our guy.

My 1st email:

Dear RD, Have been reading your blogs for quite some time with great interest. Clemente Garcia looks exactly like the guy your enlargements of all the photos seem to show. When I first saw his picture, I couldn't help but think, "That's the guy who returned Jennifer Kesse's car!" I felt I would know him from looking at the blow ups so many times, and I only wish the photos showed better pictures of his ears, as they say, the ears are almost like a fingerprint. Let's hope this is the guy and her family will have some closure. Thank you for all your efforts on behalf of this lovely young woman (I have two daughters around the same age myself!)

I happen to live in the southwest quadrant of Orlando, so have gone past the Mosaic and looked at the apartments and subsequent pool gate/fence where the surveillance tapes were made in an effort to determine if police description of this suspect's height was correct (even took measurements!) Weird? Oh yeah! But this criminal needs to be caught, and if the public helps, hopefully that will be sooner rather than later.

FYI, I am sending you some pictures for your analysis. These are taken on the same side as the suspect would have been standing. As the gate is locked to all but Huntington on the Green residents, it was impossible for me to get the correct perspective which would have been from the opposite side of the fence. You can see the bathhouse and the small triangular window through which the camera can be barely seen. The curb is 2" high. There is 9' 10 1/2" from the gate to the curb (it is sloped - how much of a slope, I do not know, only that it definitely falls off to the curb and then there is another 2" drop for the curb itself). There are 4" between slats in the gate. It is 75" tall, from cement to bottom of head bar (where top of suspect's head/helmet meets bottom of horizontal bar). It is 67 3/4" high from cement to top of neck bar (where suspect's neck/shoulder meets top of horizontal bar). It is 66" to bottom of neck bar. The gate hinge is 4 1/2" wide. It is 71 1/2" to bottom of gate hinge (refers to metal square that is gate hinge itself). It is 64" to bottom of gate hinge (refers to metal square that is gate hinge itself). It is 74" to top of gate hinge attachment to frame post anchored in cement (this measurement refers to height including that round object just above square rectangular hinge - wanted to include all of these measurements in the event they appear in any of the blowups and are mistaken for subject or objects he is carrying on his person). It is 56" from cement to bottom of square lock. 63 6/16" to top of lock. 6 11/16" from frame post to 1st slat (on lock side). 11" from frame post to position where suspect's right foot is placed (1 1/2 slats past frame post - on hinge side) in 1st shot of him walking past gate.

Will send more pics in add'l email as some computers cannot open too many at a time. Good luck!

RD, please attach photos I sent you if and when you get the time. It would be so much better if I had been able to measure the slope from the gate down to the top of the curb. I will look into obtaining a laser and have someone hold a yardstick at the other end to see what kind of drop there is between the two positions. Then if we could get the height of the camera and its angle, we should have a better idea how tall this guy actually is. Maybe the police had a forensics person do this already? If so, please advise. No need recreating the wheel.

[J4J]

Dear All, Pull up this link:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/6/13/police_search_for_ganguzzas_killer_helped_them_find_garcia.html

Compare the photo of Clemente Garcia with the only photo (albeit a blurry photo) of the suspect after he has parked Jennifer Kesse's car and looks back through the gate. In my opinion, the line of Garcia's face in the police photo and the line of the suspect's face are very similar - even the angle is similar as Garcia in the police photo is looking to his right (just like the suspect in the video/still is glancing back to his right to check on Jen's car).

I only wish I had a light box and could superimpose one photo over the other.

[jane]

Hi J4J, rd, and everyone. Well, it does seem possible Garcia could be the POI in the Jennifer Kesse-related security tapes. I am still hoping something can be done to make the images from the security tapes more clear - it seems I can't see them as clearly on the computers to which I have access, whether blown-up or otherwise, as other people can. It is so tantalizing that such a tape has been available for so long - yet nobody has been identified or arrested yet.
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[rd]

jane, I take it you are referring to both the pictures on the Blowup thread and the video. I understand the frustration because I am unable to see anything in the video, while other people talk about details about the suspect getting out of the car, etc. But I'm okay with that because I see the stills so well.

There's only been one computer that I couldn't see the stills very well, too dark on the monitor and too light on the laptop screen, and that's the IBM ThinkPad I'm posting on now. My other computers (HP Pavillion for example) display the images perfectly.

On the ThinkPad, it has something to do with display of black/white/grayscale, and it applies to the original images as well. They're also too dark or too light. But color pictures display just fine.

Of course the pictures can be brought into a paint package such as Paint Shop Pro (free or low cost) and lightened, which is what I did to start with. It's just a matter of the right degree of lightness to be able to see it best.

For anyone reading this, always start with the original and make one brightness correction, and undo and try other levels until you can see it well. Never adjust an adjustment or you'll get bad results. I resize first before applying a brightness correction.

The bottom line is that these results are obtainable by anyone on any computer from the originals using free paint software.

Of course most people don't have the time and effort to put into to doing that, so hopefully most can see the results in the Blowup thread well.

rd

[rd]

J4J, thanks much for those pictures and detailed measurements. I am sifting through this now and will add the pictures to the bottom of the Blowup thread (see Blowup of Jennifer Kesse person of interest / suspect).

I will have to comment on all this over time. Lots of great detail to analyze.

I have a mixed reaction to the determination of height, shoe size, etc. from measurements. On the one hand, determining his height is based on how far away from the fence he is and angle of the camera, and some measurements you give such as thickness or width of bars and signs would seem to be able to provide some perspective on that.

On the other hand, though, the image in my opinion is distorted in places so that everything is not the same perspective. This can be both distance away and outer edges of picture related.

For example, the shoe. Obviously, that is a very large shoe image in proportion to the rest of the body, to the degree that it resembles a clown shoe. I believe that one or more of three things is magnifying the shoe and other portions of the image:

1) It's possible that as you get farther away from the center of the image that the image is distorted, sort of the wide angle lens effect.

2) It's possible that there is a focus a certain distance away with a certain magnification effect with everything beyond that distance dropping off in size. This is an effect used by cameras placed in the ceilings of retail stores and looking straight down to count shoppers. The focus is very precise in height above the floor to be able to count heads but not shopping carts, children, etc.

3) There is a blurring effect for anything moving due to the long time lapse of this type of security camera. To record hours onto a tape, a still is taken over a long period of time, something like 1.5 seconds if I recall correctly. (Details are in this thread.) It is an adjustable setting. The shorter the time lapse, the less blur there is but also less hours of recording.

In addition to these issues, there is also the very important issue of color of clothing as taken by this camera which has night vision capability. When the police conducted tests, their dark uniforms showed up as light in the camera.

What I have long advocated is to be able to get the model of camera and settings that Huntington on the Green was using and we could buy one and conduct our own tests. I personally haven't had the time and been in the area to try to get the apartment management to give me that info, but no one else has obtained it either. Is it a state secret? I don't know.

We could figure out what it's doing if we knew what the camera was though.

I will post those pictures and look at some of the measurements in conjunction with the pictures, but have to call it a night for now.

rd

[J4J]

RD, I shall try to find out about the cameras used. I believe there are two? Correct me if I am wrong, but it looked like one camera (very blurry) up until he got in front of the gate, and then another camera took over. Please let me know if this is your understanding as well. If we got the make/model of the cameras, the height of their positions, their angle, it might be helpful.