www.justiceforchandra.com

Rainbow · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 866 Location: THE LEFT COAST

I found this page on the "Slate" magazine website. It evokes some of the opinions and emotions, legal professionals and non-professionals experienced at the time that Chandra's body was found.
http://slate.msn.com/default.aspx?id=2066028

peripeteia · Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia

caseinpt · Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 13

peripeteia

--interesting data on his initial convo with susan levy. He was quick to offer reward money but yet (as you indicate) did not even try to call Chandra up to see if he could contact her. Now thats one those hmmmms that will bug me.

The dogs losing the scent at the curb. I think an expert needs to weigh in. Scent on the pavement is difficult. Also cadaver dogs were used too and apparently they can detect a corpse just ten minutes old. I hope the defense gets to hear the results of the cadaver dog police team

So the woman who dialed 911 was directly above Chandra or close to it? May is one of those months where the windows are likely open so the scream probably went through the windows as you say.

I think a professional could easily open these doors without too much trouble. There is a whole network of folks devoting to improving locks and breaking them, at the annoyment of the lock manufacturers! Almost all of these locks can be procured so someone could have easily created a custom tool. Almost all locks have their weaknesses documented online to assist. Like identifying software vulnerabilities, everybody likes to get some fifteen minutes of fame or exposure of being the first to identify the weakness of a lock.

Phantom · Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Posts: 5

For the love of all that is good and holy, why, oh why, did the FBI not *immediately* investigate where Condit went and why, as soon as it was discovered Chandra was missing. I do not believe for one single second that the FBI was unware of Condit's (or any other political official's) inappropriate relationship with Chandra.

How far, and how deep, does this cover up actually go?

jane · Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3227

How far and how deep could be the real danger to Ingmar Guandique. What are the rights of an ilegal alien convict compared to perhaps not just one former congressman, but who knows who else. Who knows what iceberg of information Chandra might have discovered the tip of and how many powerful people might have wanted the iceberg left undisturbed?
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Phantom · Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Posts: 5

Truer words were never spoken. I can only hope, and pray, that a good defense lawyer volunteers his/her services...otherwise, even with the abundance of facts to support his innocence, he will be sacrificed in the name of "closure" and most of all, protection -- all at the expense of innocent people, and, justice.....did anyone ever notice how the rich and powerful seem to get away with murder in the United States (and elsewhere)

jane · Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3227

I watched 'Retrace The Timeline In The Chandra Levy Case' 21 Feb 2009 video from cbs5.com . The announcer said, "On May 1, 2001 Levy was seen leaving her Dupont Circle apartment building in running clothes...." I have never heard this before - probably an error.

Made me wonder though - did Errol Thompson, gym employee who dealt with Chandra when she canceled her membership, describe what she was wearing and did the description match the clothing found at the remains recovery site?
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caseinpt · Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 13

Lets add to the confusion:-)

From USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/july01/2001-07-05-levy-timeline.htm

This link says that running shoes were found in her apartment. So she had two pairs of athletic shoes then?

rd · Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL

well, first of all, she didn't run. The number of posts made in the last eight years trying to make sense of various Chandra timelines has to rival the stars in the sky (or at least seems like it :)

The running shoes found in her apartment timeline entry comes from the June 15, 2001 Washington Post. The Washington Post is the only one who referred to running shoes found in her apartment.

What was found with her was described as:

-- Reebok tennis shoes by May 26, 2002 Washington Post,

-- running shoes by May 24, 2002 Washington Times,

-- sneakers by May 29, 2002 CNN, and

-- shoes not made for serious running by May 29, 2002 Modesto Bee.

I could list the many references to the site where she was found as not having any jogging going on near it, but I'd rather have the jury make two trips, one the Chandra Levy Jog in the Park Challenge and see what they think about it by the time the get to where Chandra was found, down below the No Horses trail, and then when they get their wind (will take awhile), take them up from Beach Road where Guandique assaulted the joggers to where Chandra was found to give them another sense of what "near" means.

They won't be too happy with the prosecution by the time they're done.

The entry concerning being seen leaving in jogging clothes and carrying a Walkman comes from May 23, 2002 Washington Post and had nothing to do with May 1, 2001. It was a neighbor at the Newport who lived above Chandra (and therfore in between Chandra and the person who head the scream, apparently, no mention of the scream in this report) who told Washington Post's Sylvia Moreno that she often saw Chandra in the mailroom or leaving the building wearing the same clothes described as found with Chandra (jogging clothes) and carrying her Walkman.

That is in fact what she went to the gym with, if not everywhere when not at work.

I also question the terminology of jogging clothes for leggings and a heavy sweatshirt, as I think everyone but the DC Police would, but hey, let's have these crack DC cold case detectives take the Chandra Levy Jog in the Park Challenge in leggings and a heavy sweatshirt, wearing a 14k gold bracelet, and see if maybe they want to change their terminology a little by the time they get to No Horses trail where they would have Chandra going cross country at that point.

Yep, would love to hear their terminology about then.

Thanks for raising the many good points.

rd

rd · Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL

I talked to an acquaintance today, someone I hadn't seen since before Guandique was in the news, and I believe what they said represents the typical person's understanding of the facts after the assault on the truth by the DC Police aided and abetted by the Washington Post.

Here are some of the highlights of what a typical person listening to the news believes to be true, among many other erroneous variations:

-- The DC Police have a case against Guandique with evidence they haven't released yet.

-- The police didn't investigate at the time, did a poor job, because there was a scream in her building, and they didn't investigate, but now they know she was murdered there in her apartment by Guandique, but it was cleaned by the time they looked at it.

-- The police say that two people told them that Chandra said she was going to the park that day because she cancelled her gym membership.

-- Where she was found was close to her apartment building.

-- People who commit crimes like murder can't help themselves from confessing to someone in prison because of a guilty conscience.

-- The police know what they're doing or they wouldn't have charged him with murder, and everything they know that will prove their case will come out in the trial.

With the media blanketed with misinformation emanating from the Washington Post reporting of what the DC Police are telling them, I suspect that most jury members will have a similar level of misunderstanding of the truth.

And that's ok, that's what trials are for. They come in with a great deal of misinformation, but they will leave educated. And if this is televised as I expect it would be, the nation will be educated.

It is sad that it has to come to that to get the facts to arrive at the truth, but for that I am grateful that the DC Police made the decision to pursue Chandra's case, because only in a trial is enough attention focused on the facts to understand the truth.

Whether that public realization of the facts will be reflected in the verdict remains to be seen. Perhaps when they realize the police have nothing else and the misinformation to convict Guandique and Chandra's good sense in the press is all they have, then hopefully we will see that reflected in their decision.

rd

peripeteia · Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia

rd · Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL

In thinking about Chandra's case this morning, which gets my blood going everytime I think of the DC Police and prosecutors and the media's portrayal of Chandra's activities when she disappeared, the defense will want to acquire the complete contents of Chandra's computer from the police.

A thorough examination of the exact details of what pages were visited and the content of those pages will shed light on the police interpretation, actually second interpretation, of Chandra's activities on her computer concerning Rock Creek Park.

All of their contentions need to be thoroughly examined and questioned. They have had free rein so far by announcing interpretation without the information. The information on Chandra's computer needs to be examined to see how free that rein was.

rd

jane · Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3227

I agree, rd. The defense needs to get hold of a whole pile of stuff, actually. Chandra's computer, records of its analysis, telephone records, cell phone records, information about Chandra's internship (why did it end so abruptly and unexpectedly? Guandique used his influence so that Chandra would be at loose ends, hiking through RCP...?) The contact lens the Levy detectives found, the videotapes from the Newport (perhaps there are updated methods of recovering taped-over images?) Why did Chandra's application to the FBI disappear?
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rd · Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL

and her BOP application is missing. And get her effects from the police.

The police are now claiming through the Washington Post cub reporters that Chandra's bracelet always was in her belongings when they specifically told the press at the time who questioned them repeatedly on it that it was missing, and Chandra's parents, who were told what was there and what was missing (and didn't they get a look at their own daughter's belongings?), also did not see or know of her bracelet.

The Washington Post report indicates that the Levys were just asked about her bracelet allegedly being with her belongings for the first time by the WaPo reporters last year.

Also bring that employer of illegals on the stand and go over in great detail his statement to the Washington Post that he fired Guandique the day Chandra disappeared. Along with the landlady who harbored illegals, these two should be shown to be vulnerable tools of the police due to their questionable illegal transactions with illegals. We will see how well their stories hold up under public scrutiny in the courtroom.

and of course the May 7, 2001 mug shot of Guandique must be produced. I am fairly certain they are trying even as we speak to offer some kind of deal to Guandique to get him to confess for a sweetheart sentence and some kind of reward, perhaps promising citizenship or something.

I really can't see the police and prosecution looking forward to what's behind their charges being exposed in a courtroom.

rd