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[jane]

Hi everyone! Love reading your thoughts.

One fact that goes against the idea of Chandra walking to RCP is that dogs lost her scent at the curb outside her apartment building.
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[rd]

yeah, and Rainbow mentioned that the other day too. But it doesn't fit in with the Washington Post and DC Police framing Guandique, so like everything else, is as inconvenient as Chandra was to Condit.

Reading the transcript of the Washington Post reporters online chat on February 23 as they expected announcement of an arrest (announcement got cancelled), there is this Q & A:

Conspiracy Theorists: There are still those out there, the author of a book on this case in particular, that still claim Condit was involved and that Guandique is a 'fall guy' as a cover-up. They will likely say that even if Guandique killed her, he was hired by Condit? What say ye to these theorists that hold such a view?

Jeff Leen, Sari Horwitz, Scott Higham: We have seen no evidence to support a connection between Guandique and Condit.


I'm not aware of any other books on Chandra other than Murder on a Horse Trail except for a National Enquirer reprint of their articles, and they certainly didn't make any insinuation whatsoever as they were tangling with Condit's defamation suits at the time.

I also figure that Conspiracy Theorists mentioned the book by name but the WaPo reporters edited it out. I noticed also the Modesto Bee didn't include me in a story on the Bauder College investigation when they described a long list of experts and their specialty who spoke to the group.

WaPo and ModBee definitely do not like me, that's for sure. Of course I've been pretty scathing of the Washington Post's reporting since the great reporting of Allan Lengel back in the day. This latest series on Guandique is like this police affadavit, basically a frame of Guandique and whitewash of Condit.

In any event, I assume I'm the author that Conspiracy Theorists is referring to, unless someone knows of another book, and he's got it right that I think there is actually a circumstantial case against Condit and there isn't one against Guandique, but Guandique hired by Condit?

Could someone tell Conspiracy Theorists that Guandique speaks Spanish, and that if Condit needed help he has a brother with a felony record that makes Guandique's look squeaky clean, and that said brother was reported in National Enquirer as being missing from laborer job during time Chandra disappeared, which may or may not be true, but no alibi for Darrell that shows that's false has ever been reported.

So Condit had all the help he needed, if he needed any, which I don't thnk he did, without bringing some Spanish translator around with him to flag down a drifter on Beach Road and give him a ride up to Ridge Road with them and have the translator tell him, "wait right here, this guy will be back with a girl and give her to you."

Nope, doesn't work for me.

But nice try, Conspiracy Theorists.

rd

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again from Washington Post:

Arlington, Va.: Let's not feel sorry for Gary Condit. There was good reason to initially suspect him in her disappearance, especially his continual evasive behavior and lies about his relationship with Ms. Levy. Most murder victims are killed by someone they knew. And Condit could have had motive if he thought she was going to tell of the affair and ruin his career. If he had no involvement fine, but his getting caught in multiple adulteries was his own doing and he reaped the consequences. Simple as that.

Jeff Leen, Sari Horwitz, Scott Higham: Behind the scenes, Condit told police during his very first interview with them that he had a relationship with Chandra. He did three more interviews, submitted a DNA sample, allowed police to search his apartment and underwent a privately administered polygraph. He felt that he didn't need to talk to the press or public about what he considered to be a private matter. But some of his later actions drew suspicions, including his disposal of a box that once contained a watch given to him by a former girlfriend.

Behind the scenes, Condit told police during his very first interview with them that he had a relationship with Chandra.

I believe that to be a blatant lie. I analyze the police leaks following the interviews very thoroughly. Condit initially told police that Chandra was obsessed with him and that he had to refuse her calls. Police basically considered her suicidal and treated her disappearance accordingly.

It is sickening what these reporters can get away with.

rd

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Rd said "After being granted the meeting on Monday at the luncheon, Chandra apparently got the message she was looking for. She never made any more calls on her cell phone. "

Okay, around noon on Monday, her calls to her answering machine ended? If so, she did get an answer but I doubt it was meet at Rock Creek Park. The answer must have placated her but it seems to risky for the message to talk about tickets, a new job, or a meeting location.

Rd said "In addition, given that her laptop was probably using dial up on the landline, she wasn't looking for any more messages from Condit with the phone line tied up all morning."

Do we know if Chandra had a vmail service? Or did she use an old fashioned answering machine? If the former, then one can be on the Internet for twenty minutes or so. logoff, and then check for vmail. Of course, this assumes she was not abducted. I just cant wrap my hands around the idea that the planner would tell someone to meet me out front or get in a cab, or go to the park. Talk about high risk for the planner if Chandra got a whim to tell somebody.

Back to the dogs picking her scent up at the front of the apartment. Do we know if the dogs checked the back door too? More interesting question: Would the dogs be able to pick her scent up if she were wrapped in a duffle bag, out the back door egress? Is there video surveillance of the back door exit? What other egress possibilities exist and are they all covered by surveillance? I realize the tapes were overwritten but I am curious as to what egress is actually not covered by surveillance.

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case, the message is just call me at a certain time or some code word even. Details like what you mention wouldn't be left in a voice mesage, I agree absolutely.

The messages were left on an answering machine on her landline. There is no report of Chandra having voice mail. I don't know why that is, but there isn't. All calls from Condit and family and friends were left on the answering machine on her landline. The machine tape became full after she disappeared. There were reports of different people calling, such as Sven returning her call from Saturday.

I don't have the times of her calls on Monday. The count can be construed as around five or six to her answering machine for Monday. Of course the reporting is very mangled, as I dissect in chapter Obsessed.

I am saying that Condit was at a White House luncheon, asked for an urgent meeting with VP Cheney for the next day, and Chandra's calls to her answering machine are consistent with getting a message to call Condit sometime after the luncheon when he would know he would be available for next day, at 1 pm, given a last minute meeting request with Cheney granted at 12:30 pm.

And she made no more calls on her cell phone to anyone and tied up her landline and answering machine until 1 pm, and my presumption is that Condit mentioned Rock Creek Park when I think we can presume she called him from her landline after getting the message she was looking for.

After all, Condit would have to tell her something, his wife was in town and she wouldn't be able to come over to his condo apartment as she normally did. So not surprising he would mention someplace they would go private.

Concerning surveillance at Newport, I believe there was surveillance of back door. It's described as state of the art surveillance system with cameras recording to video tape. I didn't see an explicit statement that back door is monitored, but it seems fundamental.

On dog scenting, someone else will have to answer that. But the police reported they tried to track her with a dog, and the scent was lost at the curb.

I don't have much faith in anything the DC Police did. They haven't demonstrated any competence concerning missing women to this day.

rd

[jane]

Redd Herring has this quote from apartment manager Dennis Edeline:

The front door is operated by the desk person. Tenants do not have keys or cards to the front door. They must be 'buzzed' in by the desk person. There is a back door to the building, anyone can walk out the door, but they must have a key to get back in. Once out the glass back door, you are in a gated patio area and you must have a key to get in and out of the back gate. Otherwise, one would have to climb over the back fence.

http://www.geocities.com/redd_herring.geo/chandra/chandralevy_timeline_01.html
Nothing is mentioned here about surveillance cameras one way or the other.
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[rd]

yes, that's what I was saying, nothing mentioned on it anywhere explicitly. That quote is in chapter The Newport.

However, Newport surveillance system is described as state of the art recording to video from cameras, and monitoring the doors would be fundamental. Edeline did say that you could go out back door without being seen by front desk.

As far as body bags and the like go, you had to be buzzed in by the front desk to get into the apartment building or have a key to the back door. Even the scream would have her leaving the building to go outside at 4:30 am, so although surveillance tape is missing or written over, depending on your faith in the Newport manager or DC Police who wouldn't check Chandra's apartment for several days until her father practically had to have a heart attack over the phone and come up with a medical emergency for Chandra that suited them, which is little to none for me, would be difficult to enter and leave the building with Chandra.

And if something like that did happen, almost assuredly would be out back door as far as scent goes. I assume the DC Police started with the dog on the third floor at her apartment, but I don't know if they started in the lobby or at the front door and didn't check the back door or any details. They're always pretty satisfied with what they did without telling anyone what they did.

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More bad reportng, this from Paul Wagner of MyFoxDC:

Investigators noticed similarities that caught their attention. All three attacks took place in a ravine off one of the park's trails.

Gaundique's attacks took place along Beach Road. There is no comparison whatsoever to Ridge Road hundreds of feet higher and a half mile away.

The jogging path along Beach Road can perhaps technically be called a "trail", but it's a jogging path. Along a four lane road. Hello, is there any lights on where these reporters get their information?

There is a "ravine" involved in one of the assaults on the joggers. Beach Road runs along Rock Creek. You are already at lowest level, in the creek watershed. Yes, there's a few feet up or down in different places, small rises on the jogging trail, he was said to have waited till she got to the top of a hill, but she also said she was within feet of Beach Road, on the other side of bushes.

It's not the trails that go up the hill where if you go far enough and high enough into the woods then you can start talking about trails and ravines.

I would call it a bank down there along Beach Road. Was pulled off the path over a bank, etc. In the other jogger assault, there was no bank or ravine or whatever involved at all.

In other words, the similarities are of two joggers running along Beach Road, not two joggers and a woman who obviously was driven up to the top of Ridge Road and her body hidden on the side of a hill, still not a ravine.

There were ravines on each side of where Chandra was hidden, as far as that goes, but we might call them gullies back in West Virginia.

In any event, the terminology is not the issue, it's the false comparison of all three, Chandra found off Ridge Road to the two joggers assaulted along Beach Road.

Let's have the jury walk up the hill from Beach Road on a real trail to where Chandra was found and they'll be able to tell this reporter the difference when they're done.

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Excellent reporting by Gary Emerling of the Washington Times. All the facts right, all the points well made, balanced coverage.

I've made the point all along that the facial injuries the landlady testified about to the grand jury more than a year later would be evident in his May 7 mug shot if she were telling the truth. That mug shot has never been produced, and no mention of facial injuries or asking about it has ever been mentioned as having been on the arrest report.

Something new though in this article. You know all the stuff about gang tattoos in the arrest affadavit, used to show he was involved in a gang that assaulted Chandra?

There's this, involvng that same arrest report we would really like to see along with the mug shot:

In the affidavit, Guandique recounts to a witness how he and other gang members committed crimes, including rapes, against women. Investigators describe Guandique as having numerous gang-related tattoos, including the words "Mara Salvatrucha" on his neck. But an arrest report from May 2001, when Guandique was taken into custody in a burglary case and near the time of Miss Levy's death, lists him as having no visible tattoos.

Just more evidence of people making up stories to get out of jail. Put 'em on the stand, I say. I'd really like the jury and people to know that what the police are saying about Chandra is untrue and that her murder has all the earmarks of a disappearance at the hands of a silent ex, but at the rate this is going it may get laughed out of court before we can get that chance.

rd


No 'slam dunk' seen in Levy evidence
Gary Emerling
Washington Times
Monday, March 9, 2009

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/09/evidence-against-levy-suspect-not-a-slam-dunk/

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If Condit were to mention someplace to go private, that seems like a big risk if there was indeed a deadly plan in the works. One off hand comment to Sven, to her Aunt, and he, as 'Desi would say to Lucy', would have lots of "splainin to do". I realize he may have been confident that she kept things secretive but the stakes are so much higher when one is talking conspiracy to commit murder.

Saw this article on scents among others.
http://www.lostapet.org/petdetective-scent.php

I doubt the dogs had her scent timestamped:-) Although I imagine the freshest wins but if there is a combination of fresh, old, and mid-aged, the dogs will just follow all of them. Her scent could have been laid as she entered the apartment just was easily as she exited it. Pavement is tough apparently for dogs so no surprise they lost it there.

I am guessing there was always a history of attacks in Rock Creek Park. Not a stretch of the imagination to hold onto the body until a few attacks become news, then drop the body and duplicate the M.O. as close as possible.

[jane]

Hi all! Interesting article on scent tracking, case.

A USA Today article claims that both scent dogs AND CADAVER DOGS lost Chandra's scent outside her building. Is this sloppy reporting that should read only that scent dogs lost her scent, or did cadaver dogs indicate human remains had been present around Chandra's building?

'Police want to again talk with Calif. congressman .' Tom Squitieri and Kevin Johnson. USA TODAY. June 21, 2001

Police also have used dog teams in an effort to locate Levy — one pair of normal tracking dogs and a second pair of dogs specially trained to locate cadavers.

In both instances, the dogs lost Levy's scent just outside the front door of her apartment building in Washington.

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Jane--check out this article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-csi-death-dogs-sniffing-out-the-truth-behind-the-crimescene-canines-835047.html

If I was the defense, I would be interested in knowing the results of the cadaver dogs in the apartment?! Then again, I bet the police either didnt do it, or didnt record it.

I definitely find it interesting that they used both types of dogs.

[jane]

rd - good point about the tattoos (or lack thereof). Prisoners manage to give each other tattoos while incarcerated, so maybe he does have them now.
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