www.justiceforchandra.com

[gozgals]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/04/chandra.levy.suspect.guandique/index.html




Affidavit: Chandra Levy suspect kept her photo in his cell
By Ann O'Neill
CNN- Wed March 4, 2009
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Salvadoran immigrant suspected in the 2001 slaying of Washington intern Chandra Levy told at least two people he killed her, according to an affidavit filed in the case.


Ingmar Guandique is serving a 10-year sentence for two assaults in the park where Chandra Levy's body was found.

Ingmar Guandique, 27, also kept a magazine photo of Levy in his prison cell, stated the affidavit detailing evidence supporting a warrant for his arrest for first-degree murder.

Guandique boasted of his ties to the violent Salvadoran gang Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, and told witnesses that he was known as "Chuckie" -- the name of a demonic doll in a series of horror movies -- because he had a reputation for "killing and chopping up people," the affidavit states.
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I'm glad this character is off the streets anyway. He is not stable and a danger to women. Let's hope they keep him locked up either way this turns out.

[sigsky]

Have you heard this as an alternative to the jogging story? Did she even have a dog?

[rd]

There are many innuendoes the police are floating through the press that deserve a response, such as Guandique keeping a picture of Chandra in his cell. (actually the police said "ripped the page out", speaking of innuendo.)

Hello, if you were accused of murdering a women and agreed to take a lie detector test about it, don't you think you'd be a tad interested in who you were accused of killing?

Just no discernment between reason and hatchet job from the police. (There I used the same word trickery as the police did.)

He has two more years to serve of a ten year sentence for assaulting two joggers. That's a serious crime and a severe sentence. He needs a watch kept on him when he gets out (and in his case, deported back to El Salvador where he illegally came from), as I evangelize for all violent felons. We won't get our lives back from these criminals until we put in the effort to keep them locked up and monitored for the duration of their sentence and probation.

The dog thing is funny, sigsky. I saw that on WTOP.com when the story broke, that Chandra was attacked walking her dog in Rock Creek Park, but it was replaced with a rewritten corrected story an hour later.

The person doing the writing apparently mixed it up with the "dog walker" as they are now saying (how did it get from "turtle hunter" to "dog walker'?)

No, Chandra did not have a dog, she didn't walk dogs, she didn't jog, and she didn't take brisk walks or do anything the police claim she did.

She went to the gym two blocks away and worked out everyday.

Thanks for pointing that out, sigsky.

rd

[Rainbow]

The women who think they witnessed Guandique in the park may or may not have seen him. The point is most likely moot, since as RD and James have stated, Guandique could have still been at work and, therefore, would not have been available to go on a drug-accompanied murderous rampage, concluding with a staged murder-scene in the park (which, incidentally, wasn't there until approx. a year later).
Hypothetically, even if it was determined that Guandique WAS in the park on those days or nights, it still wouldn't connect him to Chandra's murder. I would like to point out, once again, that the odds are at least 50/50 that Chandra WAS NOT murdered in the park April 30 or May 1 for all of the reasons RD, myself and the rest of the gang have stated.
It is at least equally as probable that Chandra was still ALIVE on April 30 and May 1! Guandique may already have been in custody on the real day she was murdered. In my opinion, this is one of the reasons that the DC police did not charge Guandique with Chandra's murder at that time.

[peripeteia]

[peripeteia]

Thinking out loud

The more one thinks about Grandique being the culprit it is difficult to imagine, first because it is difficult to see that he crossed paths with Chandra and if he did, why then rat yourself out? Can't make sense of how Grandique would be thinking. But there is little sense trying to make sense of something that makes no sense also am lacking in personal knowledge in jail house mentality.

If the affidavit reads correctly Grandique had a death wish? perhaps he cannot go back to el salvador because he will be arrested or worse, face a greeting party of the FAMILY of one of his victims of violence? Curious if he could go back to el salvador if he was able?

It just doesn't make sense to me, he had only a short while to go before his sentence was finished. So why blow it? Sure telling fibs will get you points with the gangs/inmates, however not to get you a get out of jail card, and to add insult to injury he has a picture of Chandra. Surely he had to know two things, that he would be ratted out, and that if any of the guards of officials saw Chandra's picture they would ask questions?

There is the possibility that the picture was planted?

Just can't figure out what Grandique hoped to gain by running on at the mouth, because if he is guilty and had he kept quiet the DC police were never going to tie him to Chandra's murder?


Put me on the list of doubters and those waiting to see what the prosecution will present as their smoking gun, hopefully they have more than the inmates as evidence.

One wonders why law enforcement didn't set up a sting, with a cop as a cleaner, or placed where he worked in prison, seems Grandique has no problem running on at the mouth. To have both witnesses as inmates looks bad. Surely law enforcement has a trump card up their sleeve, or they know allot more than what they have revealed, or something?.
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[peripeteia]

[Rainbow]

Hi Peripetia!
You're right! Why would someone, like Guandique, who only has a short time left in prison, rat himself out?

[Rainbow]

According to this article, Guandique would be long-dead, for "running his mouth" so much.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1347306/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420911/posts

[Rainbow]

I am including links to articles, providing some background ino on the DC gang situation, so we can put this Guandique Gang Connection" into context.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1347306/posts
http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/01/an-extensive-list-of-dc-gangscrews/

[fallout]

In On the Record, Greta tells Ted Williams and Dr. Michael Baden:

VAN SUSTEREN: That is why I do not jog.
end quote

Peri and all,

Greta and her husband do live in the neighborhood, as she said, about 3000 feet away from the drop site. She should be the first to know that an ambush wouldn't happen up there.

Looking at the map and noticing that Guandique would have wandered down from his apartment to the area behind the Carter Barron amphitheate into the park; if he and some friends were hanging out and smoking dope its more likely that they would have been on the Eastern side of the park and not near the Nature Center and the Horse Stables which are to the extreme West side.

I don't remember any "benches" along the Ridge Road. The only benches are picnic benches at the "Groves". Are the investigators trying to say the illegals were hanging out in one of the picnic groves? These benches are a good 100 feet away from the roads where joggers might pass by.

Trying to think like a woman jogging in that area and it would immediately alert me if someone got up from a picnic bench and began jogging behind me. Especially if I had police experience as Chandra could claim.

The other two attacks happened late in the day. Are the prosecutors trying to say that Guandique and his friends sat in a grove area on a nice day and expected that they would be ninja-invisible in an area where locals like Greta might pop up at any moment to walk their dogs or drive by in their cars. Impossible!

Dopers like the dark and the shadowy areas. Ridge Road up near picnic 18 is like a Broadway Stage.

If the prosecutors are trying to say Guandique and his pals followed her up to the point where she turned into the woods West of picnic 18 then she could have noticed them and diverted away from the hiking trail. And, as RD has many times mentioned, it doesn't make sense to veer off the road to jog at that point.

Every jogger I saw when I examined the area and every bicycler I saw stayed on Ridge Road which is much too heavily travelled to allow the kind of ambush the prosecutors claim.
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"Strictly speaking, all is equally inexplicable"
P.D. Ouspensky 1943 from A New Model of the Universe

[caseinpt]

One bit of circumstantial detail that continues to perplex me is the 911 call in the early hours preceding her disappearance. Not much has been told about that call. For example, I presume the person who made the call lived in the same apartment right? How close did the person live to Chandra? Did she live on the same floor? on the same side of the building?

For me, it would take a pretty horendous sound to wake me up and also to make a call to 911.

I wonder in the database of missing people and murders over the years, where there is a 911 call regarding a scream in a apartment or dwelling where that person lived, that the two events dont correlate.

[jane]

It's true that the scream seems like more than a coincidence.

Excerpt from 15 July 2001 UPI article "Screams heard before Chandra disappeared":

Washington Police Chief Charles Ramsey on Sunday said a woman in Chandra Levy's apartment
building heard a scream and called 911 on the day the missing intern disappeared two month ago.

"It could just be coincidence," Ramsey said in an interview with "Face the Nation" on CBS.
"But certainly it is something that our investigators have looked at."

Ramsey said the 911 call came about 4:30 a.m. on the morning of Levy's
disappearance April 30.[I think it should say 4:30 a.m. of May 1.]

"We did dispatch someone to the scene, didn't find anything," Ramsey said.
"But we do know that Ms. Levy was very active on her computer more than three hours after
that particular call came in."

Ramsey stressed that the scream and the call did not necessarily relate to the disappearance
of Levy, 24, who was romantically involved with married Rep. Gary Condit, D-Calif. But
Ramsey's disclosure of police information about the scream and the call marked the latest
development in a high-profile investigation increasingly focused on Condit....

Excerpt from "The Chandra Levy Case: Questions that need to be answered." Miroslava Flores. La Voz de Aztlan. Los Angeles, CA (ACN) 30 May 2002

....QUESTION NO. 2 - What were the "blood-curdling screams" that were reported by a Levy neighbor through a 911 call to police on May 1, 2001, the day Levy disappeared? The woman who called, a graduate student, said she was awakened after hearing the "blood-curdling" screams of a woman in extreme distress. Because Levy had apparently used her computer several hours later the same morning, and because there were no signs of foul play at the scene, Ramsey said the 911 call was considered unrelated to the disappearance. Oh, really?....

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Christ

[rd]

Those are good points, caseinpt and jane. I do think the scream is related to Chandra's disappearance. In addition to the point of a response to a 911 call about a scream and a disappearance at the same location yet not being related very hard to believe, what of the person who screamed?

Can somebody emit a bloodcurdling scream at 4:30 in the morning and with all the publicity never let anyone know it was them and they were just frightened but all was ok? No one has heard from that person, and the police found nothing when they responded.

We don't have details on the police response. The Newport desk was manned 24 hours a day. Did the desk clerk hear anything? Chandra could go out the back door without the desk clerk seeing, but is it related to the surveillance tape not being saved for the police so that no one wll ever know? Do we even know the surveillance tape was kept and overwritten, or disappeared along with Chandra? We don't from police information, because they didn't try to obtain it until a couple of weeks later. How would they know it was the same tape used that day?

I analyze computer activity carefully in chapter On Her Computer. Lacking new information released by police, which is laughable to suggest, perhaps the defense will request some information that the police won't release, but from known information there is nothing that identifies Chandra as at the computer.

We have delved deeply into all alternative possibilities through the years, and I would prefer not to rehash every suggestion of remote or preconfigured computer operation in this thread at this time, I deal with it in detail in On Her Computer, but unless there are some questions about my findings clearly someone was on the computer that morning until 1 pm. But there is nothing that points it to necessarily being Chandra. Certainly if not they are pretending to be Chandra, so probably was Chandra.

But I suggest in chapter The Scream that whoever disappeared Chandra may have wanted a 911 call made from the Newport about a female in distress so that when Chandra disappeared the scream would be pointed to as when it happened, not during the day when it could be pointed to as someone she was meeting or as is now the case an accusation of a random murder and disappearance.

I find it interesting that Chandra sent no emails she wrote or made any phone calls or had contact with any person that day, which goes hand in hand with her constantly monitoring for phone messages the previous day. Suddenly everything stops, and she logs off her computer the same time Condit is free for the day which he would know about on Monday afternoon.

So again, it is paramount that item one of a Guandique defense is that Chandra wasn't there. They shouldn't be suckered into going directly into a contention over phantom gang members until item oneis dealt with, that being that not one person should believe the police that Chandra was jogging in Rock Creek Park after the defense is done with them.

Then item two can deal with whether Guandique was there, but by then it's a moot point.

rd

[caseinpt]

Thats a very interesting pt rd about the number of calls to her vmail the day before and yet none that entire next day up to her disappearance. I wonder when the last vmail call was made? Late at night right before sleep? That might imply that no message was ever left for her. And any smart person would not leave an incriminating message anyway since most cell phone carriers i would imagine keep backups for 30 days or longer, or at least seven days.

If her last was call was at 11pm or so, perhaps consistent with her sleep patterns, you would expect another vmail check soon the morning on waking. All which makes the scream even more interesting.