www.justiceforchandra.com

[rd]

That's about right, James. The implication is supposed to be that he was a gang member before prison and that these other two guys are gang members and Chandra was murdered by MS-13.

But Guandique wasn't a gang member, we know his story pretty well. But the DC cops are really cooking on these stories in the press in this massive assault on the truth.

While all the stuff are said by police to be quotes from Guandique, they are all from what some inmate told authorities. If you've ever seen prisoner types make up stories, then you'll know they make up pretty good whoppers. That's about all they do, to be honest with you.

And the better they tell it, the better they get out of jail for their "cooperation".

Throughout these stories being handed out to the press by the DC police are several references to Guandique referring to Chandra as things like "some Italian looking girl" like he didn't know anything about her. You'd never know from the DC police that Guandique was investigated about Chandra very thoroughly back in 2002 and passed a lie detector test, and no, that's something Condit hasn't done.

So Guandique knows very well who Chandra is and that's just an indication of what made up stories sound like.

Well, he's going to be a star witness so can't wait for the cross examine on that guy.

Now I could care less about Guandique. He has served eight years for assaulting the two women, he has two more to serve, and I wouldn't trust him when he gets out, but he's going to be exported so the Salvadorans can deal with him.

But there are two things I do care about. I care about making Chandra a victim again by placing her in Rock Creek Park jogging now they say to be murdered. I have covered in detail the many reasons that Chandra or any woman wouldn't go from never jogging to jogging for miles through desolate Washington DC pathways and behind the National Zoo and on up to finally starting up a hill on a horse trail in the woods and then up into that forest until finally she's murdered, all the while wearing a 14k bracelet her Congressman boyfriend just gave her but not carrying a cellphone as she always did (this is why the police claim jogging, of course) and not carrying pepper spray / mace for protection as she evangelized constantly.

The DC police and FBI don't like to talk about this, but Chandra was an applicant to the FBI, having just completed a Master's Degree in political administration, prior to that minoring in college in criminal justice, prior to that working for the Modesto police department, prior to that being a member of the police explorers club in high school and wearing her uniform to school.

She also trained in self defense and security, and was an evangelist for women safety measures. That's one reason she never jogged outdoors. Another is that she was top heavy in the chest and quite uncomfortable being a presence if you will as she would be bouncing along down the street. Also was wearing a heavy sweatshirt allegedly in 82 degree weather that day which one poster responded, so she took it off and jogged in her sports bra.

It is that kind of male oriented non-thinking, non-understanding of Chandra and her life, let's put another notch on our belt with this Guandique guy fixation instead of a fixation on solving Chandra's murder through her life, not manipulating her life in whatever manner a guy needs to put her where this inmate story works.

Not having her cell phone is very important. She used it all day prior day calling checking for messages from Condit. She spent the entire morning doing internet searches on Condit including using paid govenment oriented sites such as Lexis-Nexis. Then she logged off at 1 pm and was wearing her 14k bracelet but didn't have her cell phone.

That can only mean she was with Condit, not jogging, which the police will also say is the reason she had no id. However, in addition to never jogging, Chandra had told her parents just a short time before that that her boyfriend in the government forbid her to carry id when they were together so that she could not be identified if something happened. It was all couched in some vague national security spiel.

Normally this would be considered wild-eyed conspiracy stuff but her parents told Dateline this. They didn't know what to make of it, as I'm sure no parent would. They just kept pleading with her to break it off because of that and the secrecy, but Chandra wouldn't. She vowed to have a confrontation with Condit about his wife, and his wife flew into DC for the first time in memory and Chandra disappeared.

So I feel there is something political in this and the timing of finally after all these years the DC police suddenly bring charges with the changes made in the new administration that affect DC, everything from US Attorneys to oversight of the city.

I don't know what changed, but I know that they are really spreading this inmates stories around the press in a full court press to convict Guandique as a self described, bragging monster, and when I look at the corruption in DC I don't have any more faith in what the press are being told about Guandique than in the inmate who made up the stories to get out of jail.

I have no sympathy for Guandique, but I have no interest in letting Chandra's murderer get away without investigating the people who should be investigated as in every other disappeared woman case we've seen over and over, and that's the silent ex, who by the way always blames some guy in a park somewhere where his wife went and never came back.

We've heard that story too. We know what made up stories sound like.

rd

[rd]

Left out of one of these stories is that Guandique's girlfriend testified to the grand jury that she never saw the cut face and lips of Guandique that the landlady testified to.

They include just the bad, and exclude the truth. These are our public officials at work. We should be proud.

I would also point out that the landlady was harboring illegals and is vulnerable, and would tell the grand jury anything she thought would keep the DC police off her back.

And lastly, in my book, I point out that these cuts on Gaundique's face were so memorable that she testified a year later that it was around the time that Guandique was arrested six days after Chandra disappeared, for breaking into a neighbor's apartment and stealing a ring and being scared away when she entered. (Note all the DC police alleged gang bravado disappeared six days later.)

And so, I point out, if it's so memorable then it will be in Guandique's May 7 mug shot from his arrest.

That mug shot has never been produced with a date identifying it, and no mug shot with scratches on his face ever produced.

You will never see one iota of truth from any of these people that the DC police have rounded up, all low life, to testify to what the police are telling the press they said.

You just have the police squeezing one group of low life against another low life, and truth is just another casualty like Chandra.

rd

[fallout]

Well reported Rd!

Here's something I just spotted, apparently from August of 2008. Why am I cursed to be living in these interesting times.

Go to http://www.mygtv.net/?m=20080802 for the interesting picture!

Turtle Tracking Park Agents Find Marijuana Crop In National Park
By newsroom | - 2:01 pm - Posted in US News Now, Washington DC, police reports, weird news
While you might normally spot D.C. area residents running, biking, or hiking through Rock Creek Park, it’s rare to find someone using the park to grow marijuana.

U.S. Park Police say thanks to a box turtle, that’s exactly what they discovered earlier this month. Authorities say a Maryland teenager is facing charges after allegedly turning a Rock Creek Park field into a marijuana farm, which was discovered by a National Park Services employee who was conducting research.
On July 14, authorities say the employee was tracking a box turtle that was outfitted with a GPS device for research purposes when the discovery was made.The turtle was found in a remote area of the park south of the Maryland line, where they found approximately 100 marijuana plants growing. According to park police, the field appeared to be actively tended.

The U.S. Park Police were put on alert and surveillance was set up to monitor the area. Police say they soon spotted 19-year-old Isiah Johnson caring for the plants.

Johnson is awaiting extradition to D.C. on charges of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute.

[fallout]

I'm going to start hitting the news reports and websites with pertinent questions tomorrow. Think I'll start with the guy at Talking Points Memo who did a great article on the Chandra case back in 2001. Let's get the internet talking about this frame-up!

Goodnight.
James

[peripeteia]

well blow me over. Somehow knew before the announcement that there would be no cut and dry evidence pointing the finger at Grandique.
Thanks folks for posting all the news articles, and comments. I find it very strange that Ingmar was allegedly interviewed about Chandra by law enforcement, thus considered a possible suspect, yet Ramsay announces that the investigators did not interview his two victims'. Why is this not surprizing? What else didn't they do?

The testimony of the two snitches, jail house informants is sketchy. Will be very interesting to hear in detail, and to who the letters were to, and handwriting analysis. I don't hold out much for hearing from the accomplices, like it will ever happen, we will hear they are dead
or living in el salvador and can't be extridited, or some such story.

Grandique's involvement in a gang, why did the police not uncover any information about this prior to the jail house confessing. The information regarding Grandique's past, is unbelieveable. It maybe so, but why are we hearing it now, why didn't the police do a back ground check on him, or is this a figment of his own imagination or that of the jail house informants.

I hope that someone steps up to the plate to offer themselves up for his defense, or someone donates money for his defense because as the evidence as we know it seems at best, and the worse, totally fabricated.

There is no smoking gun for sure. Perhaps Grandique is looking for his 15 minutes of fame, gulity or not, something doesn't seem to jive with having a picture of Chandra in his cell.

rd points out the May 7th police line up photo will indicate if he had been attacked on May 1st. Scratches take longer than a week to heal, and the land-lady said he looked like he had been in a very bad fight. Too one would think that if he was all scratched up, there would be little doubt that he attacked the girl in the park, therefore the police should have done futher photos for evidence if there were scratches and buising noted on him re: time of his arrest
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A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision.

[rd]

So very true, kate. And thanks fallout. What a strange turnabout on the searching for a box turtle finding marijuana story.

from HFTM, annalyzer wrote:
Reported is, "U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Taylor said that there was no physical evidence linking Guandique to the crime, but the "cumulative weight" of circumstantial evidence gathered over the years led investigators to the conclusion that Guandique was the killer."

Hmmm, wonder what happened to the report earlier of dna tying him to the murder.


The DC police "submitted" Guandique's DNA for testing simply so they could use the term DNA to the public and press. Makes it sound official what they're doing.

There is no DNA from the crime scene. We knew that and posted it, but this is the level of deception involved by these corrupt people who never did an investigation and have been waiting for a "tip" as they like to call it.

rd

[rd]

from HFTM, Faith asks:
I agree with you on the media, we see this everyday.

Questions:

Has Condit been cleared 100%? Alibi? His wife been cleared? Alibi?

In your opinion; did Guandique murder Chandra?


hi Faith, I analyzed Condit's alibi (or rather lack of it) in chapter Alibi.

Murder on a Horse Trail - Chapter 17. Alibi
http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/showtopic.php?t=2544

I give the facts on Guandique in chapter Guandique

Murder on a Horse Trail - Chapter 24. Guandique
http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/showtopic.php?t=2537

And I post a long explanation of my opinion of why Chandra wasn't there and Guandique didn't do it in analysis of Guandique charged with Chandra's murder (this thread)

http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/showtopic.php?t=3916

But no, Chandra wasn't there, Guandique didn't do it, and Condit has no alibi for the entire afternoon, from 12:50pm (Chandra logged off at 1 pm) till 6:30 pm to vote on a non-binding resolution (you can't make stuff like this up)

His wife did have an alibi, she was with some other Congressional wives at a location where the wives luncheon would be held next day. I would point out however that Condit's wife hadn't attended before and no ticket was purchased for her to attend. The ticket was purchased months later with an order for next year's luncheon ticket because she just showed up for some reason in DC.

Read chapter Big News about that.

Murder on a Horse Trail - Chapter 7. Big News
http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/showtopic.php?t=2555

rd

[scott20037]

I don't trust jailhouse confessions a bit, but today's W Post story also states that a (presumably unbiased) woman attacked in the park the same day Chandra disappeared ID'd Guandique as the guy who attacked her.

"According to the affidavit, on May 1, 2001, the day Levy disappeared, another young woman walking in the park was accosted by a Hispanic man. The woman said she ran away and later left the country on a preplanned trip. A year later, still living abroad, she saw a photograph of Guandique in a newspaper when his name first surfaced as a possible suspect in the Levy case. The affidavit says the woman recognized him as the man she saw in the park the day Levy disappeared."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/03/AR2009030301967_2.html?hpid=moreheadlines&sid=ST2009022202570

I give this report more weight than I usually would only because Guandique is rather striking in his facial appearance, not a generic sort of face. Otherwise, I wouldn't trust the ID given that the woman only made the connection a year later, after seeing Guandique's picture in the newspaper. It is puzzling, though, why this ID did not lead to a bigger push to look more at Guandique, if the woman was considered credible and quite sure of her ID. One reason, of course, is that we were all preoccupied with the aftermath of 9/11 at that point.

So now I am on the fence, and while I think a lot of the details from the jailhouse confessions may be made up, we do now know that we have some corroboration by an unbiased and presumptively credible witness that Guandique was in the park that day, so that the jailhouse stories may be constructed on some core of truth.

Among the key issues now are how confident this woman is of the date of her attack, how confident she is of her ID, how credible she is generally, and whether she saw any others with Guandique, which would tend to confirm or undermine the jailhouse stories.

So I guess I would say, to repeat the gist of what rd has said many times, if the evidence really does point to Guandique, then we should all be happy justice has been done, if he ends up being convicted. I still think there is a lot of work to be done by all of you guys who have always asked such good questions and been relentless in trying to uncover what really happened.

[Rainbow]

Hi, everybody!
I would just like to take a moment to point out that April 30 or May 1, 2001 is the suspected time of Chandra's disappearance--NOT her death. She may have been kidnapped and was hidden in "full view". As a matter-of-fact, the date (and time) of her murder may have been AFTER Guandique was arrested.

[jane]

Hi Rainbow - good point!
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"There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
Christ

[MrRich]

[peripeteia]

True what you say Mr. Rich?

Scott as I reviewed this article and
the video inbeded within, with particular attention to Ramsey's and Lanier's words. It seems conclusive Chandra's case was very poorly investigated as we all suspected from the get go.


Thinking out loud:
Ramsey should have been reviewing this case and others with his detectives, at least verbally, or assigning seasoned detectives to review capital crime cases, re: he should have been asking the dectectives, did you interview the two women Grandique attacked in the park; there are likely many more women who have not come forth to the law.

What is tragic besides a failed police department, is the failure of a higher order, the District Attorney's Office, the Grand Jury in the investigation of Chandra's disappearance and murder. The grand jury and DA
should have seen the blantant failure to investigate Grandique, given what was known at the time the grand jury sat to hear evidence? The grand jury has investigtive powers which they could have exercised and interviewed the two women Grandique attacked, or does this go beyond the powers of oath and office?

Why did the detectives do such a poor job of things? Why did the District Attorney's Office, Attorney General, and further up the elected chain; not listen? The public was clamouring for a grand jury to investigate Chandra's disappearance because the police appeared to be doing a poor job of things. Yet the grand jury does not correct the errors of the agents of the law in their omissions.

One shutters to think what else was not done, and Lanier admits that the case was not being actively persued. Wonder if the Levy's were aware their daughter's files were gathering dust?
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A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision.

[peripeteia]

Hopefully Grandique is the person responsible, we know then that the person who harmed Chandra, and many other women is off the streets.

It will remain to be seen how Chandra came to be at this place in time, for her and Grandique to cross paths. This is a stumbling block to believing his story.

Many moons ago, had the thought, what if Condit had a date with Chandra in the park, went to the park waited and she did not show up.
I believe he left the White House just before 1p.m., Chandra stepped away from the computer at the same time.

One can imagine that if Gary had a meeting with Chandra in Rock Creek Park and later found out she disappeared one can understand that he did not want to step up to the plate and tell such a story, as this would further link him to Chandra's murder?

It would explain some of Gary's behavior although this still makes him a cad, no matter which way one imagins any aspect of this investigation, Gary was not a real stand up guy, and at the end of the day, this is his own doing.
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A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision.

[rd]

Also, critical that we do not perpetuate the media myth of a "meeting" at the park with Condit. It's all the same thing as far as Chandra getting there.

The phrases "jogging in the park", "walk in the park", and "meeting Condit in the park" are enablers for the DC police and media. The vagueness glosses over the reality of what's involved, and enables fuzzy "it just happened" non-thinking they perpetuate.

It's our job to force people, and now a jury, to think through the reality of those vague phrases as pertains to Chandra in the full context of her life, even to the degree of walking people, literally if necessary, through the last two days of Chandra's life.

Then there will be no glossed over reality and they will know that the police are perpetuating a myth through the media to their convenience.

Condit was not that far away from DuPont Circle by car. He would have to get to wherever he met Chandra himself, and I find it strange that the concept of meeting Condit got propagated early on in 2001 and still to this day, as if they would go separate paths to meet miles away, Chandra with no car.

What's different about that day is that Condit's wife had come into town for the first time in memory, and Chandra wouldn't be able to go to Condit's apartment as she always did. Condit never came to her apartment, he would have had to have been buzzed through front door by front desk which of course putting himself in a position to be recognized is not something he would do.

The meeting could be but was not necessarily romantic in nature. I am quite sure it had to do with the big news message she left on her aunt Linda's phone, and with the message she left her landlord that she would know what she would be doing on Wednesday concerning staying or a moveout day.

She also did not have a ticket for a flight back to California and I'm positive the reason she never made a reservation is that Condit was going to provide round trip tickets as he did in December, being in that case frequent flyer for trip out there and Chandra expensed to his campaign as himself for flight back.

But that along with her internship came to an abrupt halt when she asked Condit about Jennifer Thomas and confronted him about keeping his promise to marry her as she vowed she would to Sven.

So there are multiple reasons to meet Condit that Tuesday afternoon, but in the subterfuge that we know she practiced with Condit, she would meet him by stepping out of the Newport to his car or Darrell's van with no one to recognize them.

One should be especially aware that unless she is meeting Condit directly outside the Newport it is critical that she have her cellphone with her to pick up messages concerning coordiination or change of plans.

The police have to contend jogging despite the distance and what she was wearing and that she never jogged, simply because of lack of what she had with her including her cell phone.

So for a host of reasons we know that the only thing Chandra could have done was meet Condit, but outside the Newport and driven away.

rd

[rd]

In On the Record, Greta tells Ted Williams and Dr. Michael Baden:

VAN SUSTEREN: That is why I do not jog.
end quote

It is sad and ironic that Greta thinks she has more sense than Chandra not to jog when Chandra never jogged.

Where is the thinking and critical analysis? If it doesn't come from Greta and her top notch guests, it will not come from anywhere in the media.

rd

click to read On the Record analysis of Guandique's case

The Strengths and Weaknesses of the Chandra Levy Case
On the Record w/ Greta
Fox News
March 3, 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,504404,00.html