www.justiceforchandra.com

[peripeteia]

This is a link to the yearbook entry, sorry could not copy it, adobe protected

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/pdf/karrYearbook.pdf






Jane the ransom note is very compelling, the comparison of the f's, a's
and l's. I will try and find a copy of the year book entry of Karr to place in this post for comparison purposes. I've dabbled into hand writing analysis many years ago, it is a very interesting subject, something akin to palm reading, however, the former being much more exact for personality analysis. Many companies do applications screening for employment by handwriting analysis, personality profiling according to handwriting analysis. Karr's signature in his highschool graduation book is startling, this is indicative of a very trouble person, one looking for notority and power....in fact it is outright Bizzare!

A trained eye can disect comparisons of one handwriting to another.

In the Ramsey Ransom note, the amount of money that John Ramsey was receiving for a Christmas bonus gave the appearance, that either John or Patsy must have been the author of the ransom note, or someone known to them through work, or that they confided this amount of money to someone else.

There was always the possibility that someone entered the Ramsey House while they were out celebrating for the evening, and waited for their return. If someone entered the house while they were gone, it would be very possibile and likely that this person could've looked around and found documentation of the amount of the Christmas bonus.


Regarding Karr being in Atlanta for Christmas, it is very possible to have taken a plane from Atlanta to Boulder, and returned to Atlanta. Will have to check the airlines to see the possible timeframes, although the schedules are likely to have changed since JB Ramsey's death.

Although the family and friends indicate he was at home at Christmas, it seems he is absent from pictures taken that day?!

We will know much more once the evidence unravels. The lawyer of Karr stated last night on the news, CNN, that she is not aware of any DNA sample taken thus far. Although Karr would have had to drink and eat while on route from Thialand, and indeed while he has been in custody, although perhaps not legally admissable likely a DNA sample was taken of his saliva, and certainly with the evidence, it would be possible to take one now.
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A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision.

[James Anderson]

The case against Karr is coming together. Don Lehew, a Mount Selman, Texas handwriting analyst is in the news today, having compared a Xerox copy of the JonBenet Ramsey ransom note to samples of John Mark Karr's handwriting and finding "13 separate similarities that are, in many cases, very unusual, and that makes it a match to me. It certainly indicates to me that John Karr did write the ransom note."

On Tuesday, ABC's "Good Morning America" aired the contents of audio tapes of John Karr and said they were recorded in 2001 by a woman who talked to him on the phone about the JonBenet case. Wendy Hutchens talked with Karr as part of her work with a ministry that focuses on California prison inmates. She said Karr had contacted her as part of his research on Richard Allen Davis, who is on death row for kidnapping and murdering 12-year-old Polly Klaas. On the tapes Karr discussed his thoughts about JonBenet.

"She was just so incredible in life and so unreal in death. She's just so alive," said Karr alluding to the death of JonBenet Ramsey. "How would that person apologize for such an atrocity? Would that person say, 'You know, I strangled your daughter and it was so accidental and I was so afraid and I was so absolutely afraid that I later just, I was she was breathing but she wasn't breathing and I felt her pulse and I felt a pulse, but I thought she was dead. So I just, I just bashed her in the head. How can you say that to a mother, or a father about this person that you're supposed to love so much?" the voice on the recording said.

Also, my guess is the Boulder prosecuter must have some very solid evidence against Karr, probably a DNA match.

[rd]

You mean from something other than the swab they got in Thailand after they arrested him?

rd

[peripeteia]

[peripeteia]

[James Anderson]

RD,
I don't know of any other DNA samples from Karr other than the one they got from him in Thailand. I've heard reports that there is other evidence that the public has not yet seen.

And after Robert Blake and Michael Jackson being found not guilty by juries, prosecutors are very sheepish about pursuing a high profile case unless they have some very solid evidence. That might be one of many reasons why Gary Condit has never stood trial to this day.

[gozgals]

This is from Inside Edition. Take a look at the link.



Possible John Mark Karr Connection To Jon Benet Ransom Note



A note written by John mark Karr to a high school friend.


The ransom note left at the scene of the JonBenet Ramsey murder.

INSIDE EDITION has obtained potential evidence of a link between John Mark Karr and the Jon Benet Ramsey murder case. John Mark Karr was taken into custody earlier this week in Thailand as a suspect in the 1996 murder of the 6-year-old beauty queen.

INSIDE EDITION has exclusively obtained a high school yearbook Karr signed in 1982. Karr signed off his note to a friend with the phrase that Karr "shall be the conqueror..." The first letters of that phrase are S.B.T.C., the same ones that appear at the end of the ransom note in the JonBenet Ramsey case. In that note, which demanded $118,000 from the Ramsey family, the author signs the 3-page note, Victory! S.B.T.C. Investigators were never able to figure out what those initials meant.

INSIDE EDITION also obtained several handwriting samples from John Mark Karr a job application and a long note he wrote to a friend and asked handwriting expert Robert Baier to compare the samples to the ransom note. He found two striking similarities one with the letter "D" and another with the letter "A."

Baier cautions that he would need many more samples of Karrs handwriting to make a definitive judgment on whether Karr wrote the ransom note, but he says the samples do paint a picture of Karrs personality. He used mostly block printing, says Baier. People who do that put up a curtain. There are a lot of things about themselves they dont want people to know.


http://www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=325

[rd]

Let's not forget, he was with his family Christmas 1996, had no money, but sometime after that has been obsessed with Polly Klass and JonBenet Ramsey murders.

He is deeply immerged in this stuff, but was in Alabama with his family when it happened.

rd
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[gozgals]

Also, I heard they did not swab him for DNA. His CA lawyers said this last night. What I feel is before the DA started this dog and pony show and made an international incident out of this they should have had their ducks in a row. It is just insane.

Why didn't they get some DNA checked on him first and find out his whereabouts regarding the night of her killing? Talk about screwing up.

I think the guy is out there yet I hope he knows something but many are still debating me at home.

And Wendy, who came forward with the story on his confession years ago, is a prison groupie so who can take any of their words to mean truth....

My beef is also with this so called journalist--why did he not contact the police sooner and continue a relationship with this nut? What was in it for him? Shows some poor judgement on his part too.

Let us hope his DNA speaks!

[rd]

Drudgereport has a link to dailycamera that DNA evidence from JonBenet's crime scene is contaminated. About par for the course.

rd

from www.dailycamera.com (fair use)

http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/county_news/article/0,1713,BDC_2423_4937937,00.html

DNA may lead to dead end
By Vanessa Miller
Camera Staff Writer
August 23, 2006

DNA swiped from John Mark Karr after his arrest last week in connection with the JonBenet Ramsey murder might be irrelevant, in part because "something got screwed up" when samples were taken from the crime scene in 1996, a former investigator on the case said.

Bill Wise, former first assistant with the Boulder County District Attorney's Office, said that although DNA "absolutely could be one of the biggest things in the case," it could also be nothing.

Some of the DNA taken from the 6-year-old pageant queen's fingernails and underwear was "degraded," Wise said. He said the tool used to take samples wasn't clean.

"It had foreign DNA on it," he said.

The other "minuscule" sample, which is probably blood, was mixed with JonBenet's DNA, he said. That leaves investigators with the daunting task of trying to match a partial DNA strand with a sample from John Karr.

"The amount of DNA is small enough that it could exclude someone. But it could not go so far for the inclusion," Wise said.

Partial strands might narrow possible matches down to one person in every 100,000, he said.

"The beauty of DNA is that if you have enough of it, you can say there is only one person in the solar system with that DNA," he said. "But if there's not very much of it, you can't take it down that far."

It shouldn't take long for investigators to know if they have an approximate match, Wise said. A sample can be tested in 48 hours.

Investigators from Bangkok swabbed Karr's mouth for DNA, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity. Karr was to be given another DNA test upon returning to the United States, the official said last week.

But two California attorneys, who are advising Karr, told CNN's Larry King on his talk show Tuesday that no DNA has been taken from the 41-year-old schoolteacher.

(snip)

Contact Staff Writer Vanessa Miller at millerv@dailycamera.com or 303 473-1329.

Copyright 2006, Daily Camera

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[lynn]

I was reading what Jane said about comparing the ransome note and the year book writing.

I also looked at the two pieces for a good half hour and I did not see where the two have any comparison at all.

One question came to my mind.
Would Karr have some kind of information about what happened to JonBenet?

Lynn
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[jane]

Hi Skipper, Lynn. Lynn, I do think anyone obsessed with the case would have special info. Sometimes little bits that the police want to keep secret leak out and anyone obsessed is more likely to glean things that the moderately interested miss out on. Although people such as Professor Tracey probably try not to give extra info that they may have gathered to people like Karr, it's likely they sometimes do so accidentally. Tracey may have even subconsciously 'groomed' Karr to take on the role of JonBenet's killer.

[MrRich]

I don't know if Karr is the killer or not but I do know this - the authorities in Boulder are fools if they arrested him without compelling evidence. I would have to assume that they know much more than has been made public. To my knowledge no evidence has been presented to prove that Karr wasn't in Boulder on Christmas 1996. All things being equal the simplest answer is usually best. There's a reason Karr has been charged when the Ramseys never were. There's compelling evidence against Karr and there wasn't with John and Patsy Ramsey, cynicism and conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

-Rich
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[James Anderson]

Quientana Ray married Karr when she was 13. Her parents, Melissa and Larry Shotts of Hamilton, Ala., said they also discovered letters Karr wrote to their daughter that were signed "S.B.T.C." - the same initials found on a ransom note in the Ramseys' home. These were written years before the murder of JonBenet- so he was not copying the Ramsey ransom note. If true, this is very powerful evidence against him.

Also Karr's family claims he was with them during Christmas 1996, but the pictures taken at the family gathering do not show Karr, and they admit their memory of this is "not infallible".