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waveca
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject: Dates |
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| The People Magazine article stated that on the 5th of May, Condit was in Ceres and attending a taekwondo demo that his grandsons were participating in. It states that while he was gone Susan Levy called the house and told Carolyn about Chandra missing and asked that Gary call back. |
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blondie
Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 567
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks waveca. |
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jane
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3227
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Good point, waveca - I do remember now that Carolyn spoke to the Levys the first time. Did the grandson really have a Tae Kwondo performance that day, and, if so, did Condit really attend? Perhaps not. Maybe Garr hadn't arrived in CA yet. Lots of times when he was in CA he was not at his wife's side but in San Francisco with Anne Marie or whatever. Often Carolyn likely could only guess where he was, maybe thinking he was in DC when he was in CA and vice versa. _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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rd
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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She told the Levys that he was out but would be back home soon and could call them back.
The picture caption is dated May 2000, before Condit started dating Anne Marie or Chandra.
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laskipper
Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 1232 Location: Northern Ohio
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.dcalum.org/events/universityrow.cfm
All 44 Schools Are Completely
SOLD OUT!
THE TRADITION CONTINUES
Excerpt
From humble origins in 1999, by 2001 University Row emerged as the dominant social locale along Gold Cup's popular North Rail, with over 900 alumni and friends joining together to watch the races. In 2002, University Row was the only place to be, with nearly 1,800 guests, and the official participation of over 40 schools, a two-fold increase from 2001.
2003 brought about the involvement of 46 schools for our fifth anniversary. This year looks to be just as successful. The focus of our collaboration for our sixth anniversary event will be continued quality for invited guests. Sales should begin soon in late February / early March, so stay tuned.
end excerpt
Looks like an Pol with a wandering eye would have a field day at the Virginia Gold Cup event. I've posted only a portion of the article but you can read more at the above link.
44 schools bus young men and women to this event. Maybe there was such an event in California when Condit met Jennifer Thomas? Santa Anita comes to mind. How far is Modesto from that track? |
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rd
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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He met Jennifer when she was a volunteer for his reelection at the local college just down the road from Ceres.
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Jayne
Joined: 15 Sep 2002 Posts: 368 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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WHAT KITTY KELLEY, GARY CONDIT, AND WIRANTO HAVE IN COMMON
Kitty Kelley’s publicist is DC-area spin doctor Marina Ein. When I read that in the Washington Post today, the name rang a bell way in the back of my cerebral cortex.
Marina Ein worked as a spin doctor for former Democratic Congressman Gary Condit, and attempted to smear the then-missing Chandra Levy by giving a reporter a “heads up on a story by Lisa DePaulo that was coming out in "Talk" magazine, and speculated that there would be questions, or there would be stories about a history of one night stands in Chandra Levy’s past.”
As Josh Marshall recalls,
Ein signed on back in the Spring of 2000 to do media relations work for General Wiranto of Indonesia at the time when he was coming under intense scrutiny for his role in alleged crimes against humanity in East Timor in 1999.
According to Ein's April 4, 2000 Foreign Agents Registration filing (reg.# 5369), she:
agreed to provide media outreach services — including editorial services — to General Wiranto. We are providing these services for a monthly retainer of $20,000 for an open-ended period .... We will draft editorial material for use in a "by-lined" or op-ed piece(s) and work to secure interviews and other speaking opportunities. We will seek such opportunities in print and electronic formats.
This says nothing about the accuracy or inaccuracy of Kitty Kelley’s allegations of past drug use by President Bush. It’s just an interesting choice of publicists in this town.
As you probably recall, Condit lost his seat in a primary election and today he is pursuing several defamation lawsuits. The Modesto Bee reports, “Later this month, author Dominick Dunne’s lawyers will get the chance to grill Condit for up to seven hours. The deposition in New York City will follow up on Condit’s earlier surrender of several boxes of documents.” Levy’s remains were discovered in Washington’s Rock Creek Park in May 2002, and her murder remains unsolved.
Wiranto was indicted for crimes against humanity by a UN-backed tribunal in East Timor and was knocked out of Indonesia’s presidential race in July.
[Posted 09/08 05:11 PM]
http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerry200409081711.asp |
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rd
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, a real slimeball clientele list, that's for sure.
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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:48 am Post subject: |
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We really do have no idea where Gary called from, other than he/she stating he was with his/her wife/husband, we have only their word that Gary was not home and he could have been elsewhere. Carolyn could have called him with the message that Susan Levy had called, and he returned his call from another number. What do the phone records say? No contest there? If these can be examined.
Who Gary did not phone is interesting in, holy moly anyone would have been very frightened for Chandra's safety and called everyone when he learned Chandra was missing? Gary called no one to help in the search for Chandra until two days later on Monday, he called the police. And witheld vital evidence as to her whereabouts both to Chandra's parents and the police, about the possibility of Chandra being on a train. Well he may have told the police this but he however waited the two days before contacting the police.
This is worthy of an investigation, why Gary suspressed this information. Why he waited before contacting the police, why he did not
contact his brother and/or seek the assistance of the government and political resources he had available to him to help to find Chandra.
It was possible that Chandra could have still be on the train when Condit spoke to Susan Levy, as he states in the connie chung interview that he said Chandra had advised she was going to modesto, and leaving around the 1st. That the train would take 5 days. Susan called Condit on the 5th.
This means that
Condit could have put the the safety of Chandra at
risk, if the perp was waiting to nab chandra when she left the train, then Gary could have stopped the crime. Since Gary believed her to be in Modesto by then, he should have told Susan and the police, but he did not react before the six with the Levys and two days with the police.
Withold this vital information could have put Chandra's life at risk. Since Chandra's bags were packed which Condit could have learned on the 5th, he should have assumed she had not left on the train yet and to call the police as she should have left by the 5th.
It should have been then obvious that Chandra did not leave by train..
So did Condit call Susan back on the 5th or did he wait until the 6th? I have this written out in a timetable. If it was the 6th, then was he not at home, then where was he?? Did Condit wait to answer the phone call from the Levys because he was not at home? When exactly did he call Susan back. I'd thought that it was 9 oclock on the 6th. Or am I mistaken, Condit only reports the one time call, however the Levy's state that they called on the 5th and 6th.
Anne Marie signifies knowing that Condit was aware of Chandra's disappearance on the 5th. It seems possible that Anne marie was with Gary on the 5th when he got the call from his wife. This would explain why she continually mixes up the story about whether she saw/taled to GARY the 5th. Was Gary with Anne Marie on this night of the 5th? Washington/California _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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laskipper
Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 1232 Location: Northern Ohio
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:05 am Post subject: |
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You make some interesting points, Peri.
While reading your post, it came to mind that Susan Levy most likely called Edeline, Chandra's landlord. She made the rent payments and would have his contact information. If she did, he may have told her of his conversations with Chandra? I don't know if we knew this at one time or not. Do you recall?
Did we ever learn who recommended the Dupont apartment to Chandra? She had moved to another location when she first arrived in DC then moved to the Dupont apartment. I've always wondered if Condit was the person that suggested the move and if he knows Edeline. |
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benn
Joined: 19 Sep 2002 Posts: 2136 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Hello all, why don't one of you write to Mike Doyle with your information and interpretations?
There may be other reporters that would look into this information, but Mike is available anyway, whether he answers or not.
[I guess I posted on the wrong topic.] corrected for you by yout friendly admin. :)
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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Your right Benn and I will write to Mike Doyle again, no bother that he doesn't answer, especially me writing from the boonies.
Skipper, Edeline called the Levees and this is what really sent the alarm bells ringing, this was quoted in the Talk Magazine article, one the now defunct geocities timetable re: Chandra and Condit. It was an excellent timetable with all kinds of worthy information. Edeline had called repeatedly, talking to the people at the desk who allegedly did not know where Chandra was, Edeline had called her number daily starting on the 2nd when Chandra was suppose to call him back, when she did not Edeline was relentless in his pursuit. Finally he called the Levy's I believe on the 5th and then Dr. Levy who had already been very worried likely went ballistic.
This has always struck me as odd, as the Levees were calling and calling and Edeline was calling and calling, and yet when Dr. Levy called on the 5th Dr. Levy had to resort to calling the Police who finally made a search of chandra's apartment, and did not relay that the bags were backed. What is odd is that Mr. James Figert the manager of the Newport did not call the police himself and was of little assistance, even though both the Levees and Edeline had been calling to the front desk verbalizing their worries about Chandra. Not to mention that Figert nor the police had a look at the tapes coming from 13 security cameras!!!! This boggles the mind. I don't buy the line that Figert was afraid of a lawsuit, after all the landlord was phoning as well as Chandra's parents. Myself I would be very afraid that the good Dr. Levy with his money would sue me, I'd take my changes with being sued by the police or the city rather than Dr. Levy.
As far as whether or not Chandra found out about the apartment through Gary Condit is not known, but Condit and Edeline would know one another as they were both involved the in Red Wood tree California thing. Also, Edeline was a lobbyist who worked for Doug Bosco who is a friend of Condit's.
There is also the rumour that a female at the Newport also worked for Berman at one time, however we have never been able to establish who this woman was, the best we could come up with was Brenda McLean for a name, but in searching for three years I got a zero on this search. There was some confusion in the press that Edeline's roomate, Lito was referred to as Lisa, and I've often wondered if the press did not mess this information up, giving him the coined name as the female manager of the Newport.
However there was a report on line from the Tennancy Board to the Newport and it was address to Brenda MacLean. So if I've confused you, excuse me, as this has always confused and baffled me to no end.
Also I do not believe we ever found what Lito Veralde did, perhaps he did work for Berman, one just doesn't know how far the press went with screwing up this information? Or if there really was an assistant manager at the Newport named Brenda McLean.
One thing is for sure, Condit likely knew the apartment was for rent or he knew that this was a secure building and Chandra had wanted an apt. there, and was waiting for her Mother to see if before making a decision. Guess Susan Levy would be the only one who could tell us how Chandra came to know about the apartment, and Seven Jones might know and also Jennifer Baker. We sure haven't heard too much from these folks since the beginning of Chandra's disappearance?!!!
My guess, as we all tend to side with is that, Condit and Chandra were an item before coming to Washington? I personally think this is why Davies and Roirdon spoke up that Condit should be more forthcoming, as Chandra had worked for both of these men, my guess is that they knew about the affair while Chandra was in California. Also, I truely believe that Condit got Chandra the job.
I will never believe no matter, that Dunn does the hiring for Interns at the BOP, and as we know by his own admission that Chandra called his office in answer to an add, and he gave her the job. Where does the head of a government department hired interns? This sure doesn't go on in Canada, so I find it difficult that this would go on in the United States in one of the largest Government bureauocracies in the country and likely one of the largest budgeted departments outside National Defense. It this is standard practice? I think not! I'll eat my linen shirt I'm wearing. Piece by piece, minus the buttons of course if this is the case.
One interesting thing, I wonder where Sven worked before he came to Washington, he wasn't employed with the National Defense department was he? Just wondering?
It is odd that the modbee in their recent article on Chandra made no mention of this new information about a possible suspect in this case, one has to wonder was this information omitted as it was old hat, or is this information a publicity stunt? Or is the media afraid to say anything or else they will be sued by the Condit clan? I'm surprized that Cadee and Chad haven't gotten on the band wagon siteing that their life has been destroyed by all the BAD PRESS!? Perhaps I've spoken too soon about this, there are likely more legalize from the Condit Clan to come? God forbid! _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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laskipper
Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 1232 Location: Northern Ohio
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the explanation Peri. Now that you mention Brenda McLean and the calls to the Levy family by Edeline, it's coming back.
Did you ever follow up on the info that I sent to you on a DC Brenda McLean? I never heard any more from you about it. That's been over 1 1/2 years ago, not that it matters. I recall her townhouse. She bought it through a special HUD or FHA program. The real estate always stays in my mind for some reason. She got a "steal" based on comparable properties in her neighborhood.
Another thought came to mind while reading your post. The timing of the release of the "new" info or investigation on Chandra's case as relates to the settlement of the NE/American Media suit. Busy August? Co-inky dink?
My point is, maybe Condit got wind of something that made him decide that he better settle, post haste?
There was a journal entry (docket entry) on his case with American Media, et al, that indicated that there was to be a January 15, 2005 court date. Something about a summary judgement. That motion was made on August 12 and recorded on August 16. The plot thickens.
I guess we have to wait and see.
I find it somewhat interesting that Kitty Kelley is teamed up with Ein. Ein was working for Condit. Does the fact that Ein was fired by Condit, early on, mean something? Granted, she took a hard-ball approach to the PR for Condit, in that she was responsible for spreading all the nasty rumors about Chandra early on. But are they on the same team? Enemies? Would be good to know which would be the case.
Long ago, it was hinted by some that GC was destroyed because he posed a potential threat to future candidates for President. That is making more sense to me now that it was back in 2001. He certainly made an enemy of Bill and Hilary with his stand on the Lewinsky debacle. Another tidbit to mull over. |
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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:23 am Post subject: |
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I found nothing with researching on Brenda Mc Lean, and spend innumerable hours in this endevour. There are lots of tidbits to think about in this case, and yes, Gary did certainly stick his foot in his mouth about Clinton, although he had tried to deny what he said about Clinton.
Well what goes around comes around. _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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waveca
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:51 pm Post subject: And THIS just in !!!!! |
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TODAY'S PAPER - Globe and Mail Canada's National Newspaper
Condit, tabloids settle over Levy case stories
Modesto, Calif. -- Former U.S. congressman Gary Condit has settled a libel lawsuit against three tabloid newspapers over articles connecting him to the disappearance and death of federal intern Chandra Levy -- the case that led to his political demise. No settlement details were disclosed. Mr. Condit, a Democrat who spent more than 16 years in Congress, claimed in his $209-million (U.S.) suit that the papers ruined his reputation. AP
.....awwww...ruined his reputation !!! Would love to know how much $$$ that resulted in ?????? |
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