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rd



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we're sure Condit was in California May 5 and 6. Bob and Susan Levy called him at home on both Saturday and Sunday.

Condit was extremely busy that week as shown by his timeline, all except for Tuesday afternoon when Chandra disappeared.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks,

By the way...this might be the "pimp" that Monty Roberts was talking about. Have we seen this name before.

Abel Jubair

(source listed below..interesting site but a little extreme)

snippet:


It seems the self professed commoner Adel Jubair has become in charge of damage control for Saud family princes. Of late, he has been whisking back and forth between Washington, New York and Riyadh. We do not know if Adel is allowed to use one of the Saud family princely jets or goes commoner class on commercial airlines. If he goes commoner class he could rack up many frequent flyer miles as well as get freebies on his black American Express card. We do not know how much the Saud family princelings pay Adel to do their bidding. It should be considerable but, then again, he is considered a just lowly commoner.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I thought it was probably from the previous year or two. I stumbled across this freeper reference:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b58ae8f7d20.htm

Rep. Gary Condit, D-CA, Andre Kanke and
Chip Dent, at the 75th running of the Virginia
Gold Cup, May 2000.

end quote

I get no search hits for Andre Kanke or Chip Dent. I believe this is the subtext for the gold08.jpg picture but both Andre and Chip are male names. fallout, could your picture be a different picture than gold08.jpg?

All the bigwigs were at the Gold Cup on May 6, 2001. Condit had gone the year before. However, as soon as Chandra disappeared he skeedaddled back to Modesto with his wife, who certainly wasn't there the year before or hardly any other time except when Chandra disappeared. What changed, besides a mistress disappearing that he claimed to know nothing about?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: So....where is he now ? Reply with quote

Hi everyone !
First, let me say again how much I enjoy following all your great sleuthing and if this case is ever solved...YOU should ALL be congratulated !!! LOL
So...where is the "Critter Condit" these days anyway...did I hear he fled to Arizona to live a life of quiet "retirement" and only seems to pop out of the catus to sue whoever uses his name ???
Keep up the great work folks !!!
waveca =)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi waveca! Well, if this case never gets solved it won't be for lack of trying on our part. :) There were news clips that the Condit's went to Scottsdale and as far as I know they still have the house on Acorn Lane in Ceres. Hard to tell where that critter is, just follow the lawsuit trail I guess. lol

He didn't appear with Carolyn, Chad, and Cadee on courthouse steps when NE settlement was announced a year ago. Haven't seen him at all, actually. Maybe someone else has.

Glad to see you again, waveca. Maybe you can give us a hand with a thought or two. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the last time we saw Gary in a bar in Modesto? That was some time ago. I will have to stay away from those bars. lol

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know that he was there, benn. Cadee and Geragos were.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary was in a bar briefly in Modesto. I don't remember the date. It was in the newspaper, but maybe I am misreading what you have said, rd.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a good reason, benn. I left out the word "he" and it was nearly unintelligible. :) Thanks for figuring it out anyway.

I know there was Cadee and Geragos, I can't remember if Condit was there earlier and left or a different sighting or what. I guess I'll have to check my notes under "bar sightings". :)

What's interesting is these sightings were in Modesto, none reported in press in Scottsdale that I know of.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get emails from a newslettr in Arizona, but I don't recall seeing anything about Gary there, yet. Naybe I did not look enough. I did post a message or two there.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Arizona or bust ? Reply with quote

Hi again guys and gals...yes, I think you are all correct as I remember reading some of your posts with "GC sightings"
I seem to remember somewhere there was a story that the "Mrs" bought a house in Scottsdale (perhpas with her settlement from NE?)...looks like a substantial place. (no doubt separate rooms for her and the critter? LOL)
I suspect he still doesn't sleep too well knowing that someday, somewhere the truth will eventually come out and someone will "slip" with info. I hope no one gives up on Chandra !
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject: KISS Reply with quote

You know what they say..."Keep it simple, stupid.." - this thread of posts have been fascinating to read and what a tangled web that it weaved in Washington....I imagine you have only sratched the surface that is the shady underbelly of "parties" that Condit attended.
In the end, could it be so simple that Condit indeed knew a "freind" and then that "friend" spoke to someone who in turn "took care" of poor Chandra....they probably belong to some "Skulls" fraternity and therefore all are sworn to protect their "brothers"
I indeed boggles the mind that this kind of thing could occur, but then in politics, nothing should surprise !
Didn't Bush belong to the skulls ? Or was it Kerry ?
(I think out PM up here belongs to the Krispy Kreme sect !) Keep up with the great work all !
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/condit/timeline.html

According to the above link, GC has a bachelor's degree from California State U


Condit couldn't be Skull & Bones- that's only a Yale group and then only for those chosen.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is a friend who knew a friend who knew a friend who let it be known that someone should take care of Chandra simpler than one person murdering Chandra? Every friend out there knows about that talk if there had been any.

The concept that some person casually passed on a request but remains Mafiosa secret to the grave about it when instead they could collect riches from just telling their story is totally inconsistent with human nature. In fact the poliice count on this in every crime. and were dumbfounded when no talk turned up about Chandra. People always talk, except when they refuse to.

For all the talk of Condit having buddies, the most recent in this news leak from the FBI, no one has ever pointed out as far as I know anybody hanging out with Condit since the summer of 2000, when I contend Condit took on two mistresses unbeknown to each other or his supposedly invalid wife, Anne Marie and Chandra. I know about the mistresses, no one has pointed out anything else during that year whatsoever.

I think Carolyn got enough in the NE settlement for a good downpayment on a house, my personal opinion is that the settlement wasn't all that much though. I would be very surprised if it was over $100,000 myself.

You bring up some interesting points, wave. thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello waveca. The more posters around here the better. Here is a story where the rubber begins to meet the road, or whatever they say. 9/05/04

Modbee.com
Levy case haunts Condit

By MICHAEL DOYLE
BEE WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON — The mystery of Chandra Levy still prompts serious questions, some of which former U.S. Rep. Gary Condit will confront soon.

Now a private citizen, Condit no longer is hounded by reporters, and his silence no longer carries political risk. But because he is pursuing several defamation lawsuits, he still faces interrogation by hostile attorneys.

Later this month, author Dominick Dunne’s lawyers will get the chance to grill Condit for up to seven hours. The deposition in New York City will follow up on Condit’s earlier surrender of several boxes of documents.

“I’m eager to take some testimony from this fellow,” said Paul LiCalsi, one of Dunne’s attorneys.

Nor is LiCalsi, whose clients have included the likes of Yoko Ono, the only one still probing Chandra Levy’s world. Attorneys for tabloid newspapers, which Condit also is suing, are in the midst of their own investigations.

FBI agents and police, too, have not forgotten Levy’s disappearance, though they have not come upon breakthrough clues.

Washington police have quietly transferred their part of the Levy investigation to cold-case detectives.

The stakes still remain high: millions of dollars and personal reputations in the civil lawsuits, justice and a family’s peace of mind in the criminal case.

Condit is seeking $11 million from Dunne, and, in a separate lawsuit, $209 million from the publishers of the National Enquirer, Globe and Star tabloids.

He contends that Dunne, in radio and television interviews; and the tabloids, in overheated coverage; falsely linked him to Levy’s disappearance.

A graduate student who was raised in Modesto, Levy was last seen alive in April 2001. Her disappearance and friendship with Condit made hers a household name, but her murder remains unsolved following the discovery of her remains in Washington’s Rock Creek Park in May 2002.

Condit acknowledged to investigators in July 2001 that he had been sexually involved with Levy, according to anonymous law enforcement sources cited in news accounts that Condit has never denied.

Police repeatedly said Condit is not a suspect; and, in fact, no official suspect has ever been publicly identified. Investigators once expressed interest in a felon now in prison for other attacks in Rock Creek Park, but their suspicions apparently have not panned out.

With the investigation showing little momentum, there’s been more action on the civil front. In the case of Condit’s slander lawsuit against Dunne, lawyers have until April to dig out as much as they can through discovery proceedings.

“That’s a lot of time,” said LiCalsi, who has joined with New York attorney Michael Griffith to represent Dunne. “This is a complex case.”

Condit’s attorneys could not be reached this week to comment. Levy’s family, through Washington attorney Steve Mandell, declined to comment.

Condit’s tour of nation’s courts

Condit and his wife, Carolyn, now live in Arizona, though they still own their Ceres home. He periodically travels in conjunction with the lawsuits, as when he and his son, Chad, appeared briefly in a New York City courtroom in early June for a scheduling conference.

Condit’s coming deposition, likely to be taken at a law office on the Avenue of the Americas in midtown Manhattan, will not be his first. Attorneys for tabloids deposed him last year for another lawsuit he filed, though attorneys hinted that the still-sealed deposition provoked frustration.

“We took the deposition of Gary,” National Enquirer attorney Thomas B. Kelley told The Bee last year, “and didn’t get very far.”

Federal civil procedure rules permit Condit to avoid answering a question during a deposition only if the court has imposed limits or if he wants to assert a recognized legal privilege; for instance, the attorney-client privilege, or the Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination.

Condit’s congressional office was subpoenaed in November 2001, and he was called before a Washington-based grand jury. Other witnesses were called before the grand jury in the spring 2002.

One source, speaking for the first time on the condition of anonymity, recounted a particular grand jury session that lasted about three hours.

Prosecutors, described as pleasant and professional, asked a witness about who compiled schedules and other documents in response to the subpoena of Condit’s office.

Office procedures examined

Prosecutors further wanted to know who approved press releases and official quotes released from the Condit office, the source said; there were questions as well about the $10,000 in campaign money Condit contributed to a Levy reward fund. The money, which would have gone to anyone assisting in Levy’s safe return, was quietly returned to Condit’s campaign treasury in July 2003.

Prosecutors also wanted to know how assignments were made in the Condit office, this source said, as well as whether there had been any prior office knowledge of Levy and her relationship with Condit.

Federal grand juries are convened for up to 18 months, which a judge can extend six months. This means that any grand jury impaneled after Levy’s disappearance has dissolved.

“If a matter is presented to a grand jury and it isn’t developed into a case, we can renew the investigation with a subsequent grand jury,” noted Channing Phillips, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington. “We can provide transcripts of testimony, which would be reread, or if necessary we can resummon witnesses.”

For the Washington Metropolitan Police Department, the Levy case no longer sits at the top of the file. After more than two years of characterizing the investigation as “open and ongoing,” police quietly designated the case as a cold one.

“It’s been on the cold-case file for some time,” a Washington Metropolitan Police Department spokesman said this week.

Now, Levy is but one of 29 victims listed on the department’s major “cold case homicides” Internet page. There, she shares equal billing with others whose cases defy solution, such as Jennifer Zoch, a one-time high-school honor student and alleged prostitute who was killed at the age of 19 in 1998.

The odds appear against Washington police solving either case. There were 233 homicides in Washington in 2001; of these, police reported they had solved 49 percent.

But in addition to Washington police, the Levy case has been in the hands of the FBI.

Special Agent Brad Garrett, who has specialized in some of the bureau’s trickiest cases, remains involved with the investigation.

“It’s an open, pending case,” said Debbie Weierman, spokeswoman for the FBI’s Washington field office.

Bee Washington Bureau reporter Michael Doyle can be reached at 202-383-0006 or mdoyle@mcclatchydc.com.

Posted on 09/05/04 00:00:00
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/9097342p-9997353c.html

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