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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I think that it is most likely that dna can be extracted from any animal that would feed on tissues of a person. I think that this would take quite a while to isolate. Perhaps I'm wrong about this, but had the buddy not washed the garbage can the data that the police would have gleaned from the liquid would have taken less time than from a maggot.
I agree Skipper that Mark must have been up half the night but I fail to see why he would have returned the garbage pail, this was stupid, or at least not washed it out, I'm a bit leary about this information, as it seems that Mark must have noticed the human waste in the garbage, but perhaps in the dark it was not noticeable. One would think that if he dumped this in a dumpster at the hospital the light should have been sufficent to see that there was waste in the garbage as the areas are usually well lit.
I checked the University of Utah's Hospital, and there are buildings for days there, it is a maga complex of a hospital, pavillions for this and a that, the garbage from this place must be nothing short of astronomical, and more than likely they do have an incinerator, but it is likely that if Mark was only a sitter for patients that he had no access to the incinerator, as this would be locked or should be.
Let this be a byword for hospitals to increase the security of their incinerators. I'm presuming that there is only one pysch hospital in Salt Lake perhaps I should go and look if there are more. I will write a letter to the University Hospital about the security of their incinerators but law enforcement should be notifying everyone in the country to lock down their incinerators, and those cities who burn their garbage at dumps if any still do this. As this is a sure way to get rid of a body with no evidence remaining. _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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laskipper
Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 1232 Location: Northern Ohio
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Peri,
I believe, if I'm reading the article correctly, that Mark put some additional 'stuff' into the neighbors garbage can for collection the following day, which would have been a Monday.
The neighbor, upon retrieving his can, noticed a substance at the bottom. He said the smell/look was that of animal blood and/or tissue that was starting to decay. That's why he washed it out. Bleached it out, I should say.
He also mentioned that there was nothing that he put in that garbage can that would have caused this odor, etc.
The neighbor didn't connect the information of the missing Lori and the garbage can mess until 4 days later. He said that he watched the reports of the detectives looking through dumpsters in his area and that made him think of his garbage can. Because he lives across from Mark Hacking, he called the police.
Too bad, as you say, that he didn't call the police first? At least they found a few bugs to run for DNA. Hopefully that will be enough.
Mark was a busy boy. So much reminds you of Scott, just at a different level. |
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laskipper
Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 1232 Location: Northern Ohio
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:54 pm Post subject: Hacking arrested..Finally! |
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-08-02-hacking_x.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno
Police arrest husband of missing jogger
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Mark Hacking is under arrest on a charge of aggravated murder in the disappearance and suspected murder of his wife, Police Chief Rick Dinse said Monday. Hacking is in the county jail, the chief said.
Police would not discuss a motive or reveal the weapon they believe was used to kill the victim.
Investigators believe Mark Hacking, 28, killed his wife in their apartment and transported her body to a landfill.
Lori Hacking's body has not been found. Relatives of Mark Hacking, who was arrested about 11:45 a.m. on suspicion of aggravated murder, had given police a new lead on his wife's whereabouts over the weekend that had investigators planning to resume their search at the landfill this week.
Lori Hacking, 27, has been missing since July 19, when her husband told authorities that she failed to return from an early morning jog.
"We believe that Mark Hacking is responsible for her disappearance and her death," Dinse said.
The day after Hacking reported his wife missing, he was taken to a psychiatric ward after he was seen running around at night naked in sandals outside a motel where he'd taken a room.
Investigators focused on Hacking after learning he was at a store buying a new mattress just before reporting his wife missing. Authorities were later seen removing a box spring from the couple's apartment. Investigators have refused to confirm reports that they found a mattress in a nearby trash bin.
Baird said police would renew a search at a municipal landfill. Cadaver dogs would not be available until Friday, however, when the all-night searching can begin, he said.
Mark Hacking's parents, Douglas and Janet Hacking, refused to comment Sunday, as did his lawyer.
Lori Hacking's father, Eraldo Soares, said late Saturday that he was unaware of any new information about his daughter.
The organized search for Lori Hacking was called off by the families earlier this week, a decision they said was made out of concern for the volunteers' safety. The search was in neighborhoods, industrial areas and canyons near the park where Lori Hacking was said to have been jogging the morning she was reported missing.
Since that day, Mark Hacking's credibility has crumbled amid revelations that he lied to his wife about enrolling at medical school in North Carolina and about graduating from the University of Utah.
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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Aggravated murder what in the name of heavens is this, is this manslaughter? Seems to me that if the police have the weapon and a confession of sorts, why aggravated murder, why not murder in the first degree. Likely he is saying Lori attacked him, well regardless, he will get at least 25years, as he was the cause of the aggravation if in fact Lori did attack him, but this scenario I doubt, a 100 llb person vs a 200 lbs person, not much of a match for the larger person!
Guess they must have fished him out of the jail. I'd been very surprized that he does not kill himself, save allot of money. Boy Scott and Mark are more alike than they are different. _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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laskipper
Joined: 17 Sep 2002 Posts: 1232 Location: Northern Ohio
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Have you thought about them getting an impartial jury in SLC? The same sort of forgiving attitude that the mother displayed would be the norm, I'm sure. In fact, you have to wonder if Thelma Soares set the standard for SLC's attitude toward Mark?
You could ask for a change in venue but I think the entire state is primarily Mormon.
This will be interesting. |
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jane
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3227
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Kate - doesn't aggravated murder just mean that there's something extra that is wrong - it's not simple murder, but worse in some way? |
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jane
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3227
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Aggravated murder is the only crime for which a death sentence may be imposed in Washington. It is statutorily defined as first degree murder with one or more aggravating circumstances, including, but not limited to, murder of a law enforcement officer or fire fighter, murder committed while the defendant was incarcerated; "murder for hire"; murder occurring during the commission of a felony; or multiple victims.
The above is from a Washington (State) site, but 'aggravated' probably has a similar meaning in Utah.
Source: http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/deathpen/?fa=newsinfo_deathpen.display&fileID=overview |
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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Jane: I'm dumbfounded, haven't a clue what this means in legalize, not familiar with law except when it comes to medical evidence, and know very little about American Law, except the ammendments, and even these are sketchy. I'm assuming this means that he was under duress due to drugs, or that Lori threatened him, or the whole crap about his house of cards came falling down because of his lies. I don't buy this, I still think the Police need to investigate further for motive. It was reported that he was kicked out of a missionary service in Winnepeg for dating young women, four people who covered for him were expelled as well, he made up lies of course to tell Lori.
Seems he and Lori are high school sweethearts, isn't this just too sick, Lori wasted her whole adult life on this dude.
Will look this up. Just found out on line that the Police did investigate the dumpster at the Hospital! Wow they actually listen to people! Incredulous. "On Monday, investigators searched a dumpster at the University of Utah near the psychiatric ward where Mark Hacking worked. Investigators had received a lead regarding the dumpster, and brought in crime lab technicians to test the dumpster."
I'm wondering if Mark was set up by the police, told Mark's friend that they had gotten a scent of Lori from the dumpster and/or the landfill, sure seems like something happened that Mark cough up to his friend. I think that he had no way out, knowing the police were/are going to take that landfill apart inch by inch no matter how long it takes.
http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=108642
There is a wedding picture on this page and too a picture of Mark and Lori the weekend before she died, and Mark obviously knows she is pregnant by the position of his hand.
This seems so far fetched when you look at the picture at the party, and then what Scott did.
This picture sort of says what is on Lori's mind, she looks terrible unhappy and disillusioned, her lips are all crooked, and she seems almost angry.
What does this picture remind you of: Condit in People Magazine, the light striking exactly half way across the face. Creepy! Certainly both have a dark side.
Have a look Jane about this aggravated assult thing and maybe we can figure this out..... _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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jane
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3227
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Kate - I get the impression you think aggravated murder means the murderer was 'aggravated' - annoyed or enraged - by the victim. But it means it was muder that was aggravated (or made worse) by being a multiple murder (perhaps Lori and the fetus) or done during the commission of another, additional, felony. |
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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Jane thanks, I knew that logic would not figure this out, thanks for looking this up, what I dislike doing worse than searching mapquest is looking up legal terms. I have heard of aggravated assault, but just made up the meaning thinking that you had to be provoted.
Likely you are right on the money about the fetus.
Just going to have a boo at CSI, helps to keep up with the technology imployed to solve and investigate homicides.
Thanks again Jane really appreciate the information. I'd never have made a lawyer with all the useless information to keep in your head.
later.
kate _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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peripeteia
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 1173 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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The above article I believe states that Mark did not work Sunday night. So he had plenty of time to do his deed. Read elsewhere where there was duct tape, scissors in his car.
Anyway just wanted to post this picture, on the left side of the picture check out his lip, this is a sign of anger, and outrage, well there goes my idea of thinking that he was going to give a confession, this lip says defiance! What the scarf suggests, I don't want to even venture to go there, other than he is weird. Not a pretty sight!!
 _________________ A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision. |
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HEAVEN
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Posts: 16 Location: naples
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: MISSING IN UTAH |
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Hi everyone, so sorry i haven't posted in a while but been sick to even get on line.
But i have been following the news about Lori, and even though i knew from the get go that he was guilty, it still hurts a little to know that a young girl who had all her life ahead of her with a baby on the way, had to die in the hands of a bastard like Mark Hacking...it really bothers me that there are so many sick men out there, you might say "well common Heaven women kill too" Yes and you are right, but it so happends that there is another asshole in court fighting the same charges Hacking has, and its so happends that its still fresh in our minds when they found Lacy and her baby, so right now im focused on these two sons of B----s!! That took 4 innocent lives, diffrent people, diffrent cases, diffrent circumstances, but they were all humans and had a right to live!!!! And please lets not forget Chandra, she is also out there somewhere.
All my love goes out to the families of Chandra, Lacy and Lori.
God Bless you all~~~@ _________________ Heaven |
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rd
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9277 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard of a woman making a man disappear lately. Probably be hard to even find where a woman murdered a man.
Meanwhile another woman can't be found. Men who murder their lovers make them disappear. That's the only reason they must disappear.
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benn
Joined: 19 Sep 2002 Posts: 2136 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. People are not being brought up in the way that they should go, as King Solomon taught 3000 years ago. I read a news story about a highschool girl who had been raped by a fellow student. She evidently trusted everyone and had no fear of her "friends." Now she says that she has a lot of fear.
I have heard that in some schools children in the first grade are told that they can choose their gender. No wonder people are growing up killing each other, mostly men killing women. The schools are not teaching the children how to live, and many of their parents are not teaching them either.
I posted another message on the newsgroups about the Chandra Levy investigation. If anyone reads it the message will tell them a little about how the DC Police prevented Chandra's home district from helping in the investigation.
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blondie
Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 567
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| HEAVEN - Chandra has already been found!!! She is not still out there unless you know something we don't know. |
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