www.justiceforchandra.com

[rd]

It is much more than just lieing about being accepted at a North Carolina medical school, they were there picking out an apartment, mving van scheduled, father was going to tow extra car there, etc.

They were moving imminently. That whole charade would have preceded Lori getting pregnant.

rd

from www.cnn.com (fair use)

Missing woman's in-laws: Son lied about medical school
Police: 'Probably foul play involved'
CNN
July 22, 2004



SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (CNN) -- The parents of a missing pregnant woman's husband told reporters Wednesday they had just learned that their son lied about being accepted to a medical school in North Carolina.

Mark Hacking has been questioned by police about his missing wife and authorities have impounded his car. He is not under arrest.

"Mark Hacking is in a safe place and we've been talking to him," said Salt Lake City Police Detective Kevin Joiner in a phone interview with CNN.

"We're not ruling anyone out and not ruling any possibilities out."

He said Lori Hacking is considered a "missing person under very suspicious circumstances" and added there is "probably foul play involved."

Douglas Hacking, Mark's father, said he and his wife were under the impression that their son had applied and been accepted to medical school at a university in North Carolina, as well as two other schools in other states.

Hacking had told friends and family that he and his wife were in the process of moving to the Carolinas.

"He never even applied to medical school in North Carolina," Douglas Hacking said

Joiner said authorities had learned that Mark Hacking had not applied to medical school in North Carolina early in their investigation.

Lori Hacking was reported missing early Monday morning. A witness reported seeing her stretching beside her car at Memory Grove Park just before dawn, Joiner said, but police have not been able to confirm that report.

Her car was found at the park and impounded, the detective said. Authorities also searched the couple's apartment, Joiner said, and took some items from that search.

The investigation also led police to a Dumpster, which was removed for further scrutiny, Joiner said.

The couple had recently found out that Lori, 27, was expecting a baby.

Douglas Hacking said the news that their son had lied to them was "shocking" and "distressing."

"We do need to talk to Mark about that, to try to understand better what's going on," he said at a news conference.

The elder Hacking said his son and Lori, who have been married for five years, had gone to North Carolina recently and had even picked out an apartment there. They had also packed up their belongings and had arranged for a moving truck.

"He and I were going to drive out there and tow their spare car behind his car," Douglas Hacking said.

"I have no explanation for this new development, I just can't understand it, and I won't speculate beyond that.

"It still doesn't necessarily answer the question as to what happened to Lori. It might impact that somehow but right now we don't know."

More than 1,000 volunteers have combed Memory Grove Park, where Lori was last reported seen. The park, part of which is a canyon, lies at the northern edge of Salt Lake City.

Joiner said professional search and rescue crews had also looked through the area.

Thelma Soares, Lori's mother, tearfully begged for her daughter's return.

"My statement is that Lori is still missing and there is nothing more important that finding Lori and bringing her back, please help us find her," she said at the news conference.

When asked if she would talk to Mark Hacking, she answered, "I don't know."

[benn]

If all women started wearing locators that might prevent some of them getting killed by their husbands or boyfriends. The locator could be taken off, but that might look suspicious if it were.

If a woman had a locator on and disappeared she could be located, dead or alive, as long as the locator was not removed; and even if the locator was removed it could send out a signal before it was removed. Just sending out a signal that it was being removed could be a message to the locator company or to the police.

They are still sort of expensive.

benn

[rd]

benn, why would someone wear a beacon when it would just get removed when they are kidnapped? It would be ok for falling down a ravine, but we're talking runners here wearing a beacon as they run. Have you carried around a beacon as you run for miles? And for what, to get it taken off when you are kidnapped?

Do you have any idea what it's like to be a walking transmitter? That is a punishment for violent crimiinals, not s prescriptiion for humanity.

rd

[laskipper]

It occured to me that Mark Hacking is already in the psych ward... Do you think he is over-stressed, crazy or that it's a pre-planned defense?

He works there, after all. Plenty of opportunity to mull over the variables.

[rd]

My personal opinion is that the police asked for him to be placed om suicide watch and that that was an appropriate place to watch him, probably agreeable to police, family, and the hospital. But that's just a guess.

rd

[rd]

This puts this case to bed. Rest in peace, Lori Hacking. May you be found and given a proper burial, not just made to disappear by yet another silent man who you thought loved you.

rd


from www.cnn.com (fair use)

Report: Man bought mattress before reporting wife missing
Mark Hacking called 'person of interest,' not suspect, in Utah case
Associated Press
July 23, 2004

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) -- Around the time Mark Hacking called police to report that his pregnant wife never returned from her morning jog, he was at a furniture store buying a new mattress, according to local news reports.

Hacking, 28, has not appeared publicly since Monday, the day he said his 27-year-old wife, Lori, vanished. Family members say he has since been hospitalized for stress.

The Deseret News and television station KSTU reported Thursday that police found Hacking at a motel about a half-mile from the couple's apartment early Tuesday. The report said Hacking was hospitalized after being found.

Police said only that they were called to a disturbance involving Hacking and that the matter was turned over to medical personnel.

Det. Dwayne Baird said police considered Hacking a "person of interest" in the case but not a suspect, and that he had been interviewed as recently as Wednesday.

Lori Hacking was five weeks pregnant when she disappeared just days before the couple was to move to North Carolina, where Mark Hacking said he was going to attend medical school, family members said.

But he had lied to his wife and family -- he never graduated from college, nor was he accepted to any medical school, authorities said Thursday.

Meanwhile, The Salt Lake Tribune and KSL TV reported that Monday morning, in the minutes before he called police to report his wife missing, Mark Hacking was buying a new mattress.

The owners of a Salt Lake furniture store told the Tribune that Hacking came in about 9:45 a.m. Lisa Downs, the wife of store owner Chad Downs, said the credit-card purchase went through at 10:23 a.m..

Police have said Hacking called them and reported his wife missing at 10:49 a.m.

Friends told the Tribune that he had called them about 10 a.m. about his wife's disappearance and said he had twice run his wife's usual jogging route, three miles each way.

Police removed items from the couple's apartment Monday. They would not say what they have taken from the apartment, but television news footage showed paper bags, boxes and a box spring being removed. Police impounded a large trash bin from behind the apartment complex.

Mark Hacking's family and in-laws said they were stunned to learn Wednesday that he had not graduated from college or been accepted at a medical school, as he had claimed.

Thelma Soares, Lori Hacking's mother, said that she was certain her daughter had not known about the discrepancies. "Up to the time when I spoke with her last, she was deceived also," she told KUTV-TV.

Douglas Hacking said even though his son is incapacitated by grief, they spoke of the deception Wednesday night at the hospital.

"He has two older brothers who are high achievers, a physician and the other is an electrical engineer," he said. "He felt under some pressure to excel as well."

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.

[laskipper]

I was just going to post that article, rd. You're right- it 'puts the case to rest', save for finding Loris' body.

Evidently it was the pressure of Mark living up to his brothers' high achievements in life that caused him to make up the tales that caught him up in the end.

Mark missed the fact that he already achieved something that most people never do- he had a pretty, smart and supportive wife. That he killed her, obviously, is some kind of irony.

People have strange values in this world anymore.

[rd]

Ahhh, glad you had it covered, skipper. I do not believe the "pressure to succeed" story, a form of the devil made me do it insanity defense.

This guy was scamming to start a paid for life elsewhere, and his wife's insurance would be part of it. The fact that she became pregnant just before he was to kill her, that is, just before they moved, was a matter of inconvenience.

Her death would also be his excuse for not going to medical school, but hard to say how long he would scam his parents before coming up with that one. Lori would not be there to let the truth be known, that he made sure of.

rd

[laskipper]

[rd]

Oh absolutely. I wasn't referring to your comments, but to the reports in the paper from his father.

There's truth to it in fact as you say, but this guy didn't fake graduating and fake gettiing accepted to medical school and fake his wife about going to North Carolina with him out of a need to "achieve".

He was scamming, and Lori probably did learn something or the pregnancy made it impossible for her to go there without being found out too soon before being killed far away from home by who knows who in North Carolina.

I think she must have been on to something and he had to silence her now before the scam unraveled. Yes, he was running around naked at a motel when he was taken to the psycho ward. He will clearly plead insanity based on unbearable pressure to enter medical school.

No lie. Someone like Geragos is working up the defense now. Only in the US.

rd

[rd]

Here's a comment from Christi Anne on Writers.Net responding to a post where I summarized my thoughts from here:

Author: Christi Anne (---.226.102.141.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)
Date: 07-24-04 00:18

I forgot one more piece of the puzzle. The night of the killing, a hotel near the park and their apartment called the cops because hubby was outside naked, except for his shoes. The cops went there, called hubby's parents, and the parents took him to the psych ward. Nothing more has been said about the event than that. It sounds like a bi-polar reaction to a really stressful event. I wonder if the guy is manic-depressive? Surely with 95% of his family members being doctors, someone would have diagnosed it. The bi-polars also tell far-out stories. At least, this has been my experience with a family member who has it and friends with kids who have it. Bi-polars typically do not commit murder. They do, however, do a lot of stupid, crazy stuff that doesn't make any sense.

My thoughts: the only one to say she was pregnant was the husband. No one else knew, including mom and best friends. I am guessing she wasn't pregnant. Hubby made it up?

She didn't go jogging. The eyewitness said she was only 50% sure the jogger could have been Lori. The hair was pulled straight into a poney tail, and it's doubtful that Lori's hair could accomplish that and be straight in the back. (She has long pretty curly hair). There was only one witness who saw someone who could have been her at the park. Possible that her car was moved there but she wasn't.

Something may have happened to Lori during the night. She could have even walked out because of the North Carolina lie. Hubby, not being in his right mind, wanted to save face with his parents, so he continued to make it look like they were moving. Dumb to buy a mattress before the move, but maybe they are cheaper in UT or maybe it would be one less thing for him to worry about. I know when I have had to move, there is a checklist of things, and maybe he was just going down the list. After the mattress was bought, he started getting nervous and possibly wanted to know where Lori was. She could have gone to the park and something could have happened to her. Or he could have put her car there. That one I don't know. I do know that if he wanted to get rid of Lori because of the medical school lie, it might have been easier to do once in NC, and no one knew them.

They also mentioned the neighbor in the house across from their apartment had something weird in his trashcan that they called the cops about. Don't know what this is.

Anyway, it's still possible the guy didn't do it. But at the same time, he needs to be on lithium or something. Bless the families involved in this. What hell it must be. Bless you too, Ralph, for helping people in that situation!!

[rd]

Christi, wouldn't he be buying a mattress becaue it had blood or traces of bodily fluids from her death as he strangled her?

He had to get rid of the mattress, they found it in a dumpster between his apartment and the park. He got rid of the evidence and waited until he had the new mattress home before calling police, who would be coming and searching his apartment.

This is what he did instead of "running the park trail twice looking for her" as he told friends. That is calculated cold blooded murder.

Thanks for your thoughts. Hope you can find time to join and post more. We have a lot of cold blooded murders here unfortunately, women who disappeared.

rd

[peripeteia]

I doubt the scenario of being bipolar, well it is possible, however, someone in a manic mode, would not have had the logic to think out clearly to go and buy a matress. Also, why does one buy one when they are moving, and wouldn't you wait until your wife was with you in order to purchase one. Anyone who I've seen in a clinically manic state, would not be out buying a matress, and dumping in a dumpster the one they already had.

I don't think I follow, the husband was called from work to say that Lori was not there, this had to be after at least 0900, then the husband goes to the store to buy a new matress. Oh, ya this sure doesn't fit. He sure isn't the smartest of people, surely he must have realized that the police would check his credit cards.

I agree the likely scenario is that Lori found out something about graduate school, I'm surprized that she did not realize that he had quit school (undergraduate and not finished). Wonder what he was doing everyday. Also the fact that he had not gone to the graduation exercises, why did no one find this strange. Given that he had not even applied for graduate school, one would think that there would be a noticeable abstence of mail from North Carolina.

Therefore, it would not be difficult to see why Lori might have been suspect. I think that Dogs will be able to find Lori's body, don't know where she is, but somehow she should be in the caynon.

I think there is little doubt that the Husband murdered Lori, and his defense will likely be insanity. Well he has to prove insanity at the time that he murdered his wife. Going down to the store to buy a new matress before calling the police, is not a good start to an insanity defense, this takes malice of forth thought, and unless he was a complete nut in the store when buying the matress this sort of blows his defense out the window. His naked run around the motel is rather moot evidence as it is after the fact. He certainly was clear thinking enough to have gotten rid of the evidence and then called the police.
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A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision.

[Jayne]

Fox is reporting that Lori's blood has been found in the apt. I'll post more as I get it.

[rd]

The person who thought they saw Lori warming up that morning at the park is now not so sure. Did anybody ever get an approximate distance from apartmernt to park? How long would it take Hacking to run back if he drove car to park? I suppose that's been covered pretty well on other boards, but I haven't checked.

Hacking called friends that morning and said Lori was missing and that he had run her regular route, three miles each way, total of six miles. Instead looks like he ran back to his apartment after parking her car at the park.

rd