www.justiceforchandra.com

[Vivian]

In one of the pictures of the poi it appears that he is holding a dark object, could this be the antenna on a hand held police scanner, walkie talkie or could this be Jennifer's pepper spray that I believe was found by some walkers along Windmere? If this was her pepper spray perhaps he was going toward Windmere when he tossed it out.

I don't think that the poi ever thought that the Kesse's would have responded as quickly as they did to Jennifer not answering her phone or showing up for work.

Have any of you ever thought that the poi gained entry to Jennifers apartment during the night, did whatever and forced her to shower afterwards as some perpetrators have done to destroy dna?

Vivian

[gozgals]

Vivian:
it is a possibility and could very well be.

[gozgals]

I have studied crime and history since i was a child. **I was very interested when Chandra went missing. It became my focus, stories all over the news and then when the TTowers fell, Chandra's story was no longer the focus.

My deep interest in victims, crime may have developed due to a childhood incident.

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I was on the beach as a very young child in Brooklyn NY My brother was maybe 3, i'm not exactly sure. I was going to get a drink at the boardwalk, (things were safer back then, so it appeared, the world was not all twisted or we did not hear about it as much). As i walked, i looked behind me and my little brother had been following me, I guess he left the family blanket on the beach.

I turned around when i got to the boardwalk, looking for my adorable brother wearing his sun hat. He was GONE. I became unglued. ( I was maybe 7, cant remember).. I ran to my parents and told them. We began to expore the beach, not an easy feat, all of us crying.. Time was elapsing and fear gripped us. We were just about to phone the police, of course fearing a kidnap or drowning, and as we turned and looked before heading to a phone, there were two girls on a big rock at the water, and my little brother.

They found him wandering and were just teens. They were watching him and were ready to call the police..

What a lucky day but I never have lost this memory and maybe why I studed crime since childhood. I am not sure if this issue since my brother was young has effected him in some way. He grew to be very successful but not a kind person.


Same brother.
Another time my mom ran in a store, All the stores were right on the sidewalk in Brooklyn. She ran to get something in the front and my brother was sitting in his stroller. A boy attacked him and bit his face. Safety was an issue then but most felt secure in the neighborhoods they were raised in.

Thought I would share because even as a young child, I can imagine the fear those here feel when they lose a relative, friend, etc. To never know is always worse. I believe in hope as one never knows but I also feel it is good some of the families get a resolution, (as the Gacy victim's I posted abt today) after years of heartbreak.

Again, nice to see you here Vivian.

Goz

[Vivian]

Goz,

My oldest daughter(Jennifer) at age two ran off while we were in a very crowded shopping mall, those few minutes of terror that I felt I WILL NEVER forget!!! Can you IMAGINE living with that terror for nearly 10 years as the Kesse's have?

I don't know if the Kesse's have more information about Jennifer's abduction than we do, if I were them I would sing like a Canary....I would tell absolutely everything that I had been told!! Obviously the Orlando LE methodology has not worked in this case , keeping information "close to the vest" is a bunch of bull. Barring a confession in Jennifer's case, I doubt that there will ever be a conviction and releasing all of the information that they have may bring two tortured parents some closure.

I often wonder if it would have made any difference if Jennifer's condo had been processed or if LE had released pictures of the poi as soon as they obtained them????

How Drew Kesse was able to avoid knocking the detective out when he made light of Jennifer's disappearance, when he made the comment that she would be back in a couple of days and especially when the detective told her parents "if a hunter doesn't find her this year, they will the next"!! My God, how inept can anyone be???

Any one of us are only a heartbeat from being where the Kesse's are now. I think that is why I am so obsessed with their Jennifer!

Take care,

Vivian

[gozgals]

[gozgals]

Vivian:
I dont know if RD was alerted about your postings. I will make some contact in case he did not read your notes here. He spent much time on this with his photos, research, etc.

I also will get back to you on your latest post.

I hope things are going well for you. It is starting to get cold where I am.
I miss GA

Respectfully
Goz

[gozgals]

Hi Vivian.

I sent Rd a note so i'm sure when you gets a chance he will read your comments and notes. Please keep posting your thoughts on Jennifer and other cases too.
I am going to read your last post over the weekend. I have to be in the hospital monday so trying to catch all the news.

have a nice weekend
Goz

[Vivian]

It breaks my heart about Jennifer. I have a lot of respect for law enforcement and have never been mistreated by any of them but I believe that they "dropped the ball" with Jennifers case. If it is true that they never processed Jennifer's apartment, they not only let the Kesse's down, they let a 24 yr old woman down who had a lifetime ahead of her...The two original officers never made a note and threatened the Kesse's with arrest and refused to process her apartment because it had been contaminated by her family and friends...Yes, it would have been more trouble for them to get a list of names of those who had been there, collected fingerprints, buccal swabs or collected blood from them, my God, a young woman's life was at stake!!!

What if.....

1-dna was found that belonged to someone already in CODIS
2- there was dna in her shower or on the wet towel belonging to someone that did not belong there.
3-the sweater in her hamper had been checked for foreign dna
4-the picture of the poi had been posted sooner

I believe that she was abducted during that Monday night. Something that has always bothered me about Jennifer's apartment. The Kesse's have mentioned a few times that Jennifer was messy. Drew has even mentioned that her car was messy. Yet, when the Kesse's first arrived at her apartment her mother made the comment that her apartment was "maid clean" and that her mail was in a neat stack on her counter. Did her brother and his friends leave Jennifer's apartment "maid clean" after staying there for four days, maybe?

"What if" more had been done for Jennifer in the beginning? Would the outcome have been different??

Vivian

[rd]

hi Vivian, I take it the guy is the one that was discussed just above, and where the discussion left off wasn't in the office that morning???

I have no idea, so much information is deliberately withheld. I agree with you completely. I guess they expect someone to "drop a dime" in exchange for something, that pretty much sums up their attitude. I've seen it in other cases, including Chandra's. It's just not a surprise that these cases go on and on unsolved.

That's interesting that you comment he was holding something (based on my photo analysis I assume). I can't recall anyone even getting that far with the analysis, at least not to where I heard about it.

What it looked like to me, and the example photo I posted below it, was grasping a gun like object, fingers curled around handle. Now could it be other than a gun? I guess, if the strap down holster wasn't so perfectly visible below the belt.

With a holster like that, it is sure to be what goes in the holster. My take was that it was a stun gun. Not neccessarily used to subdue Jennifer but as his fully outfitted law enforcement bike uniform.

As to her apartment, I have to defer to you and others on that who have looked into it closely. My thought from the beginning was that the promise she made to get her brother's friend's phone back to him quickly resulted in a trip to a Fed Ex type store which she never made it to, but you don't think she would have done that and someone close to the family (I don't know who) posted here that a) returning the phone wasn't that high a priority for her and b) she could have shipped it from work.

From a general viewpoint, I can't see a jealous acqaintance deciding to do a home invasion and disappear her body. Logistically, it makes no sense to me. I think it was the POI pretending to be law enforcement to pull a woman over late at night and I haven't seen any indication other than a shower said to be damper than it should be after 12 hours or so.

If the police have some information otherwise they're not divulging which can only be the cell phone tracking information if they have any at all then I will revise but I haven't seen any. In fact, that was the police statement's first take on it in the news.

But if everyone who knows anything about this wants to sit on status quo as has been for several years now, then status quo it will remain, unfortunately for Jennifer.

Thanks for commenting especially about some aspect of the photos. I worked for months on that and very few can look at that kind of detail I guess. Your thoughts appreciated.

rd

[Vivian]

RD,

I loved your work on the poi photo's as I could see the things that you pointed out with the enlargements. Before viewing your work I never noticed a lot, much like the policeman that some people could make out on the grassy knoll during the JFK assassination....I have no imagination!

I would like for law enforcement to change their strategies, obviously, they need to change some things. They could utilize volunteer retirees in cold cases such as Jennifers....Assign a detective to oversee say 10 retiree's , give them all of the evidence collected and let them read through all of it looking for overlooked evidence....I know that I would do something like that in a heartbeat....What harm would it do now to release ALL of the information on cases like Jennifers', unless someone talks, either a witness or the perpetrator themselves this case will never be solved. The Kesse's need and deserve closure. They have often stated that the only want Jennifer back. Who knows, revealing all of the evidence to the public might solve this....Sitting on it sure hasn't!!

The reason I don't think Jennifer left early to mail the phone is because it may have been dark outside around 6 am or 7 am , she was already uneasy and I don't think that she was uneasy just because of the "cat calls" by the workers at the condo. I think it was much more than that. I think that perhaps someone may have been going into her apartment while she was away(I don't know this for a fact) or possibly stalking her.

I think that the coworker may have been coming into her apartment while she was at work to snoop around. When I worked at BCBS we each had a cubicle, most of us left our purses, car keys, etc. at our desk when we were at meetings or were at lunch. If Jennifer were as careless as we were, a coworker could have gotten her keys, had a key made while she was in a meeting. He would then be able to access her apartment while she was at work as this individual was in a supervisory position and could go and come whenever he wanted to.

Vivian

[rd]

Here is some good news:

The investigative firm of Copenhaver & Associates has been retained by an unnamed client to conduct a renewed investigation into the disappearance of Jennifer Kesse. We will release a statement within the next few days. As always, anyone with any information is asked to contact me. Contact info is below.

Eric Zelaya
Director- Fraud & Special Investigations
Cold Case Investigations Coordinator

Copenhaver & Associates, Inc.
214 N. Goldenrod Rd Suite 18
Orlando, Florida 32807
(o) 407.501.5698
(c) 407.276.0981
(e) eric@myfloridapi.com

Agency License #
A-2600156
Investigator License #
C-1600056

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That is phenomenal. I will certainly contact and see if any of my image work is of any help to you. I was just thinking recently that my 19" CRT monitor which I did all the work and showed detail so clearly bit the dust several years ago and I never bought a replacement. If someone is actually going to investigate I may need to get one on the way and take another look at those poi images.

rd

[Rainbow]

You have done such an awesome job, rd, examining and interpreting the photographic elements of the surveillance tape! I have a question for the group. . . Does anyone think that Jennifer's discovery of any financial irregularities at Westgate Resorts through her work as a controller could have played a role in her disappearance? Or, does the evidence point more closely to someone she had a personal relationship with? Or, do investigators believe that this was a "stranger-related" crime?

[rd]

I think the whole work thing is completely up in the air. There seems to be something to it or after work socializing, not enough to rule anything out.

thanks Rainbow.

rd

[rd]

I came across this info from Kesse's Guestbook that I want to get into the record here. I have always felt that Jennifer disappeared at night after her last phone call with her boyfriend.

The general consensus for years though was that Jennifer was abducted in the morning on her way out to her car to go to work. Primary basis of that was said to be a damp shower.

But this is the info I was looking for back then, but only confirmed by Kesse's on their Guestbook in 2014 (obviously out of deference to whatever Orlando police were doing).

SaintTikhon posts on Reddit Unresolved Mysteries:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/4mc8hs/reasons_to_believe_that_jennifer_kesse/

After talking to her boyfriend, Kesse's cellphone and the phone of her brother's friend were both turned off and the batteries were taken out.

Source: The Kesses confirm this here:

http://jenniferkesse.123guestbook.com/?page=15

Dear Kesse family my condolences again. Has there been any information on Jennifer's cell phone pings? There is someone stating that the phone stopped pinging around 1040pm the night before her car was found due to the phone battery being removed.

Replied on: 7:23am 07-24-2014

JT

We really don't want to start answering questions here on guestbook otherwise we will end up with 100's of them. However there are 2 cell phones still missing and never found. Jennifer's and an additional one left in her condo by a family friend staying at her condo while she was away. Jennifer was going to mail the second phone presumably whenever she was able upon her return to Orlando 1/23/2006. Those phones we were told were pinging a little after 10pm on 1/23/2006 and went silent at approx. 10:40p by manual shut down and presumed removal of cell batteries. The ping study was not an exact science then and gave us little the investigators can use, i.e. one can't be in 2 places on the same phone miles away a few seconds apart. Just another heartbreaking reality of Jennifer's case. Technology isn't always cut and dry which is another thorn in our side. So what you heard is true and to this day those cell phone, Jennifer's pocketbook, Ipod and her work attache are still not located nor anything of hers used that is trackable.

The Kesses


also in going to the Guestbook link, there is this additional post

...there is no more information on what happened to the cellphone that was left in the condo. Could this cell phone have been pinging its location somewhere?
Replied on: 8:16am 02-27-2015

Allen, Than you for finding Jennifer's crime and story. The cell phone were manually disengaged so no pings could be picked up after 10:20pm on 1/24/2006. Someone knew exactly what they were doing. The pics are the best we will get and have already been enhanced with no further ability to get better at this point in time, we are told. We wonder everyday how could this be.

The Kesses

[Rainbow]

www.reddit.com
"Unresolved Mysteries"
By Saint Tikhon
June 3, 2016


https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/4mc8hs/reasons_to_believe_that_jennifer_kesse/

Good thinking, rd! It is important that you logged the cell phone information here. The time and places that the two phones stopped pinging would definitely be indicative of the "time and place of disappearance". Persimmonpluot mentioned on the "Unresolved Mysteries" page that she had read something about Jennifer's cell phone pinging off cell phone towers at 10:40 p.m. close to where witnesses claim to seen Jennifer at a bar in the company of her boss, one which she had also gone to before she left on her trip. Persimmonpluot also wrote that Jennifer had spoken to her dad about her boss "who had romantic feelings for her, which she did not return".