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Markybug



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:50 am    Post subject: The gardeners Reply with quote

So , could the gardeners at jenns home have any involvement?

They are the only witnesses to the fact jenns car was gone at its usual time or earlier.

They were in the van when jenns brother arrived, and would not open the vehicle or assist him ?

The POI is possibly (jenns dad has mentioned this) wearing trousers that are tightened in , for grass cutting, insect avoidance etc? Also
He possibly has something on his back , weedsprayer for example?

Just a thought?
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Nancy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The gardeners Reply with quote

Markybug wrote:
So , could the gardeners at jenns home have any involvement?
At this point, it's impossible to say for a certainty but I will venture an opinion that they did not. According to an early and long ago statement by Mr. Kesse "7:30 every Tuesday, like clockwork, at least 5 lawn-care workers worked her building".

So a team of five or maybe six people. If one or two of them committed the crime, would the others have no inkling of anything happening? Would they all have remained silent? Could they all have been involved?

It seems unlikely to me. But I'm often wrong.



Markybug wrote:
They are the only witnesses to the fact jenns car was gone at its usual time or earlier.
Your mention of "or earlier" is interesting. I have heard rumors that someone reported Jenn's car was gone as early as 6:30 am on that Tuesday morning, Jan. 24th. I believe the source for that to be unreliable, but what interests me about it is--if true--it would be yet one more thing that points to a late evening or night abduction.

Here is the big "but", though--has it been confirmed where Jenn parked on the 23rd when she arrived home from work and after picking up her mail?

What if she parked on the pond side of her building instead of the other side where her numbered parking spot was? Would the lawn care workers have taken note of her car not being at either location?

It was apparently around 11:15 am on the 24th when the two Mosaic management people purportedly drove around the entire complex looking for Jennifer's vehicle.



Markybug wrote:
They were in the van when jenns brother arrived, and would not open the vehicle or assist him ?
I have only heard Logan refer to the people in the van as "workers". Did he ever state with any specificity whether they were lawn-care workers, or painters, or any particular type of worker?



Markybug wrote:
The POI is possibly (jenns dad has mentioned this) wearing trousers that are tightened in , for grass cutting, insect avoidance etc?
Or maybe tightened in for the purpose of riding a bicycle? Or could they simply be something like sweatpants with a band around the ankle?


Markybug wrote:
Also
He possibly has something on his back , weedsprayer for example?

Just a thought?
The possibility of the POI having a weed sprayer on his back is interesting.

Had anyone taken this seriously, they possibly could have confirmed at least the possibility. I know in my area, even when we hire professional lawn care workers to maintain our lawns, any spraying requires a separate request. For example, if the lawn care workers notice any weeds or insects that require spraying, they contact the property owner and then it is the responsibility of the property owner to contact the lawn care management people to schedule the spraying. It is not something that is included under the regular quoted price for maintenance, so requires a separate request and billing.

So, I guess my point is they should have been able to come up with evidence if a person with the required equipment was part of the team that morning.
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Markybug



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:18 am    Post subject: Gardeners Reply with quote

Good points there Nancy , almost everyone could be a suspect , and no one !

Without more info tho ?
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rd



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nancy wrote: Here is the big "but", though--has it been confirmed where Jenn parked on the 23rd when she arrived home from work and after picking up her mail?

Here are some corollaries to that question.

The official version is that it is believed that Jennifer was assaulted at her car in her parking lot going out to go to work.

But the brief statement or statements about that seem to refer to the examination of her car. I think that if there had been physical evidence at a parking spot outside her condo that there would be no vagueness whatsoever - she was assaulted here in the parking lot, etc.

A further question is did anyone notice where she parked Monday evening? My guess it wasn't an issue because Jennifer lugged in luggage from her trip and I doubt anyone thinks she parked out of the way with heavy luggage to tote.

On the other hand, the other question to ask is, was there a parking area closer to her door than where she normally parked, even a restricted area or handicapped parking which she was using temporarily to tote the luggage in?

And if that possibility exists, is it possible she went back out to move her car after that last phone call?

The only thing I have seen is that there weren't many residents in that area and it seems to be the goto for reason no one has seen anything.
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Markybug



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off topic , but jenns family’s website jenniferkesse.com is coming up account suspended ? Or is it just me ?.
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rd



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just you. The domain hasn't expired, not till early 2019. Suspended usually implies some unauthorized activity coming from it, might have been hacked. Couldn't find any other comments about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://jenniferkesse.com/ back up.

Kesses put a lot of work in it. Don't know what else they could have done for their daughter. Heartbreaking.
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