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gozgals
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:58 am Post subject: Guandique Sentenced |
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Chandra Levy's Killer Sentenced
A judge orders Ingmar Guandique to serve 60 years, nearly a decade after the federal intern disappeared.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/11/man-gets-years-prison-levy-slaying/?test=latestnews
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WASHINGTON The man convicted of killing Washington intern Chandra Levy nearly a decade ago has been sentenced to 60 years in prison.
Ingmar Guandique was sentenced Friday. In November, a jury convicted Guandique of first-degree murder in Levy's 2001 disappearance and death, despite a lack of witnesses and no DNA evidence linking him to the crime.
A District of Columbia Superior Court judge also rejected Guandique's request for a new trial
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gozgals
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rd
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rd
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Look at the ignorance of the reporting from CNN:
Both of the other women whom Guandique was convicted of attacking in the park -- including one on the same day Levy went missing -- spoke at the trial, providing testimony that juror Susan Kelly called "powerful." Guandique had pleaded guilty in those attacks, and was set to be released in September 2010.
This is about the level of knowledge of the Guandique jurors about Chandra's case. The blind leading the blind. Sheer ignorance from DC prosecutors and police, jurors, and "reporters" without names.
Just sheer ignorance.
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James Anderson
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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This from usa today:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-14-levy-trial_N.htm
The mother of Washington intern Chandra Levy says she'd like to believe Ingmar Guandique is responsible for her daughter's death, but admits she has a sliver of doubt.
Asked if she felt 100% certain the right man had been convicted of the crime, Susan Levy said on CBS' "The Early Show" Monday that, "To be honest, I always have that 5% of not being sure.
Guandique was sentenced Friday to 60 years in prison. He was convicted in November of first-degree murder in Levy's 2001 disappearance and death, despite a lack of witnesses and no DNA evidence linking him to the crime.
5% of not being sure? Deep down I think she knows what we know. Maybe she just can't admit it. |
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rd
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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If she were honest, it'd be 95% unsure Guandique did it.
Actually, she ought to be 100% sure that Chandra wasn't galavanting around through streets and roads, paths and trails, hill and dale, circling around the highest peak in DC on a foot trail off a horse trail in a deep dark lonely forest.
I mean anyone with even the slightest sense of knowing Chandra and looking at where Chandra was hidden would know she was transported there, and there not being much to transport to, probably transported dead.
And given her remains spread out over a hillside wasn't detected until spring a year later, very probably transported there the previous fall after 9/11 ended the search for her.
So yes, I can understand why parents wouldn't want to have to consider things like this, but a jury ought to be forced to. The jury were dingleberries to start with, proud of being totally ignorant about this crime and apparently intent to stay that way.
And then the defense lawyers, while coming up with some really good info from evidence the public wasn't told about, didn't do one thing that I outlined had to be done. Now granted, I didn't call them up and tell them in so many words, but I sent them links to key threads such as Guandique's Defense that laid it out, and they didn't have the time or inclination to see or follow my advice.
Well, we see where it got Guandique. If I had had the money, I would have sic'd a high profile defense lawyer, maybe even Ted Williams if he'd had taken it, and rammed the facts through this court, raising hell the whole way with this profession that above all else seeks to hide and obscure the truth.
And Guandique would be talking to them for as long as it took to take the smirks off those juror's faces. They'd either be for him or against him, but they would know what they were voting on, every last detail.
Starting with knowing where Chandra was hidden real well.
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Rainbow
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: Empirical Evidence |
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And by that, you probably mean that you would have made the jury take the "Walk in the Park" challenge! Right? |
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rd
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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yes, and have the prosecutors escort them on their alleged vision of a journey there.
There would be no guilty verdict. There would only be disbelief. The Levys should go along with them and see what this "Chandra liked nature" thing would be like.
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gozgals
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:23 am Post subject: |
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I wish Chandra's mom was 100% sure. If I was the parent of someone murdered, I would want to be positive the person murdered my child. 95% sure is not good enough.
She should take a closer look at this person whom she feels "MAY" be guilty and look into her heart. If she is unsure, I think it is a higher percentage and I bet I'm correct. She has to know deep inside Chandra was not killed there and taken there. What a shame.
I think the jury should have taken the "Walk in the Park Challenge". I sure would have loved too.
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jane
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I was kind of shocked that Susan Levy said f__k you to Ingmar. _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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jane
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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From a Feb. 11 CNN article: Quote: | "The nature of the conduct was predatory," Fisher said. He added that there was "something different and worse" about Guandique's actions that wasn't often seen in Washington murders. | Just not up to DC standards, eh? A pity. What...??? _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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jane
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:54 am Post subject: |
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From the same article: Quote: | During her reading, she [Susan Levy] consistently looked at Guandique, at one point asking, "Did you really take her? Look me in the eye? Did you?"
Guandique looked at her, shook his head and mouthed, "No." |
I know that hardened criminals can lie with ease, but I do not think Ingmar's behaviour here is that of a lying murderer. _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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jane
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Again, same article: Quote: | "They reported that I had young women in bikinis at my house," he said. | Condit went on to clarify that the young women were not, in fact, wearing bikinis. This led to confusion as to whether the young women were fully clothed, or wearing nothing at all (just kidding!) _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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jane
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:06 am Post subject: |
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From a Daily News article of Feb 11: Quote: | But his [Condit's] behavior was overshadowed by the bizarre behavior of Guandique, who hand-wrote a one-page letter to the Post in January in Spanish.
"Everything about this case was a stupid, comedic farce that the detectives and prosecutors have engaged in," he wrote, according to the newspaper. | I don't get how any of Ingmar's behaviour at any of the court proceedings was in any way bizarre. And if the translation of Ingmar's January letter is accurate, I'm impressed with his command of language, and I agree with him! _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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jane
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone have any guidelines about writing to inmates? Are there any rules that should be observed re what can and cannot be discussed?
There's the problem of translating - I have a friend from Chile - maybe he'd be willing to help. _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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