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rd
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9273 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:57 am Post subject: |
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We know that Robinson dropped the idea of his book on the case rather abruptly and would no longer comment on the case.
He clearly acted like he was warned off for some reason.
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Rainbow
Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 866 Location: THE LEFT COAST
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:08 am Post subject: |
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During the very first conversation the potential witness had with Mr. Robinson, he was very apprehensive, as well. The first conversation took place following the first time that Anne-Marie Smith (accompanied by Mr. R.) went on television and told her story. He said that a lot of law enforcement officers were in the area, the first time they went on T.V. for some kind of security reasons. The witness found it hard to understand what he meant by that at the time, but in telephone conversation(s) later on (especially after the A.G. comment), the potential witness understood a little more. |
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jane
Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 3225
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Well, we saw what happened to the DC Madam, didn't we... _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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Rainbow
Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 866 Location: THE LEFT COAST
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:25 am Post subject: The Former A.G. |
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There is speculation that there were some other people, who had dealings with entities that this particular A.G. was associated with, as well, who were found dead under suspicious circumstances.
The potential witness had no knowledge of any of this (things associated with the A.G., e.g. allegations of proceeds of covert ops used for personal and/or governmental gain, etc.), as he/she lived abroad during the time the A.G. was in office.
Anyway, the point is that the potential witness, having done a little research on the A.G., now understands why Mr. R. seemed so apprehensive. |
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Rainbow
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: Re: D.C. Madam |
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Re: D.C. Madam
I am still interested in reading the book that her attorney wrote. |
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rd
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:45 am Post subject: |
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I am too. I hope we get the chance. |
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Rainbow
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:58 pm Post subject: The Security Tapes |
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Well, while we are still alive, let's try to reconstruct what happened in her apartment. Even if the security tapes had been played over, I still think the FBI lab could have found something of interest on the tapes. |
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jane
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Rainbow wrote Quote: | ...I still think the FBI lab could have found something of interest on the tapes. |
I agree. It seems when the authorities want to do something they can work miracles, but other times they are supposedly so clueless and incompetent.[/quote] _________________ "There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."
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gozgals
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I am most interested in reading the book on D.C. Madam too or at least getting a review.
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Rainbow
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: Why Just Her? |
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This is one of the 11 reviews (on amazon.com) of the book written by the D.C. Madam's attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, entitled Why Just Her
(This should probably be filed under a D.C. Madam Thread)
Ingmar's P.D.'s used a more intelligent approach than Deborah Jeane's.
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Just-Montgomery-Blair-Sibley/dp/1439227950#_
Quote: | .0 out of 5 stars A real eye-opener!, June 2, 2009
By D. Roberts "Hadrian12" (Battle Creek, Michigan United States) - See all my reviews
(TOP 500 REVIEWER) (VINE VOICE) (REAL NAME) This review is from: Why Just Her (Paperback)
Like most people, I saw the tidbits of this story that Robin Meade divulged on the CNN (HLN) morning show back in 2006. I didn't think too much of the Deborah Jeane Palfrey saga, other than it was kind of strange that the story emerged "out of the blue." At the time, I had no idea all of the political maneuverings which served as the impetus for the government seizing Ms. Palfrey's assets. So.....this book was kind of a long drop down the proverbial rabbit hole into the sordid world where politics meets justice.
Little did I know when I turned the front cover how the Bush Administration / RNC wanted to get their hands on Palfrey's little black book in order to run smear campaigns against Democrat candidates in the 2006 elections. Nor did it occur to me that they were also trying to prevent any Republicans being named in a who's-who of political sex scandals. It's a bit ironic that their plot backfired big time as the biggest 3 fish positively named in her book ended up being Republican big-wigs DoD consultant Harland Ullman, Senator David Vitter & Bush Administration official Randall Tobias. And, of course, the poor Republicans also got trounced in the 2006 elections on top of that!
Obviously, if this had been a book aimed at a "normal" administration, then it would have come across as far-fetched to have the conspiracy theories enveloped within this story. Of course, the Bush administration was no normal administration. Rather, it was an executive branch which was absolutely rotten to the core. With buffoons such as Alberto "Gonzo" Gonzales and Monica Goodling running the Department of Justice, the egregious actions of the DOJ portrayed in this monograph can be seen as simply par-for-the-course. In short, the actions of the DOJ between 2000 & 2008 were utterly disgraceful.
While I always knew that your chances of winning the case were severely enervated with a public defender, I never realized the amount of collusion that PDs have with prosecutors and judges. Nor did I comprehend the degree of apathy that they could hold for their clients. It's horrifying to read how the government not only stacked the deck against Ms. Palfrey to ensure that she was convicted, but they also cherry-picked their cards. In other words, they CHEATED!
Montgomery Blair Sibley gives a credible testimony of his attempts to be the only person in Ms. Palfrey's corner during her arduous ordeal. He is obviously a much more talented lawyer than the other attornies in the book, and he's far more ethical than the politically motivated government investigators and prosecutors depicted in the book. While I've never had a great deal of respect for lawyers, I did come away from the book with admiration for Sibley and his Custer's-last-stand style of litigation.
As I was reading this book, there were a lot of overtones of the obsessive Republican attacks depicted in Inside Deep Throat - Theatrical NC-17 Edition back in the 1970s. My, how little times have changed. One may be for or against legalizing prostitution, but the fact remains that there is a reason that it is called the world's oldest profession. It has been around for tens of thousands of years, and (assuming the human race is still around) it will be here tens of thousands of years from now. The whole conservative agenda to keep the lustful genie in the bottle strikes me as rather silly.
Deborah Jeane Palfrey was certainly not Mother Teresa. On the other hand, she certainly wasn't a terrorist, either. It's sobering to think that Osama bin Laden would have received more due process than Ms. Palfrey did.
Her brand of having an escort service / prostitution service (whatever you wish to call it) was a victimless crime. Some will contend that prostitution exploits women who are in dire straits. While that may be true in some instances, it wasn't the case here. Most of the women working for Ms. Palfrey had college degrees. Some had advanced college degrees. One was a Naval officer and another was a professor at the university of Maryland. No, these were not women in poverty but women who had the intelligence to make up their own minds.
Furthermore, high society prostitutes who were educated, too, have been around for thousands of years. In ancient Greece they were known as the hetairai (Aspasia was the most famous / infamous one). In the middle ages and through the Renaissance, the only caste of women who were educated were the high society courtesans. The excellent movie Dangerous Beauty tells the story of one of them.
Hence, to try and blame the entire tradition of prostitution on Ms. Palfrey is beyond unfair. If you want to prosecute her, fine, but you must also prosecute the women who worked for her. You must also prosecute the men(!) who willfully paid for the services her women offered. You must also go after all of the other escort services (there are dozens in the D.C. area alone). To go after Ms. Palfrey alone is beyond singling her out - it's downright misogyny!
If you want a good hard look at a topic that is sobering in its depiction of the lies, scandals, arrogance, hypocrisy and just plain stupidity of the Bush administration and the DOJ that served under its watch, then this book is worth its weight in gold. The DOJ is SUPPOSED to be the most non-partisan segment of society. Instead, the Bush administration liked to wield it like a Scottish broadsword to take down political enemies. If nefarious actions such as these are not reprehensible, I don't know what is. Sadly, Ms. Palfrey ended up being a sort of sacrificial lamb on the alter of Bush 43 political hubris. |
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rd
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 9273 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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It's interesting, as you all say, look what happened to her.
But you're right, that would be a good post in the DC Madam thread. I'll go bump it to the top.
Like Chandra, the DC Madam knew too much and is dead.
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Rainbow
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: Chandra's Place |
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Meanwhile back to Chandra's apartment. . .
Does anyone remember anything about a receipt for something from a Pendleton store being found In the apartment? |
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rd
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure about Pendleton. An Alexandria goods store.
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Rainbow
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: Alexandria Store |
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Hi Rd!
I think it was a Pendleton store in Alexandria, VA. I wonder what that receipt was for. A D.C. homicide detective mentioned something about "Pendleton" in one of the telephone conversations I have previously mentioned. |
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rd
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen speculated the comforter that was found on the floor near her door. Of course people who have seen the receipt and comforter would have a better idea about that.
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