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VERY INTERESTING THEORY I'VE NEVER HEARD
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blondie



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: VERY INTERESTING THEORY I'VE NEVER HEARD Reply with quote

hERE IS THE LINK

HTTP://PR.CANNAZINE.CO.UK/CONTENT/VIEW/445/27/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did not work - I'll try again

http://pr.cannazine.co.uk/content/view/445/27/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! You may just have something there, Blondie. Not just for the mystery of Chandras' murder, but for the ill health of many Americans- Nationwide.

MTBE- Cheney, Big Oil, Enron- Saudis- it all makes sense. This guy tied it up neatly.

Thank you for this-

ls

PS- This link- supports what the man stated about MTBE- as a cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and Fibromyalgia- both problems for myself and countless others in this country and around the world.

The Cat is out of the bag -

http://www.cfids-me.org/aacfs/poster5.html

Excerpt:

Conclusion:

We conclude that 2-5A and PKR are not only biomarkers for viral induction of CFS, but biomarkers for other stressors inducing CFS which include MTBE and Benzene. Interferon-beta is involved in the induction of 2-5A and PKR in CFS patients, and HSP is more involved in this mechanism of action induced by toxic chemicals

More on the same:

http://www.immunesupport.com/library/bulletinarticle.cfm?ID=4016
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that this is a VERY plausible theory - totally makes sense. And goes along with Bauder College saying that they are looking into someone in the Fed Gov't.

Very long, but worth it. And worth looking at. I remember the rolling blackouts because my girlfriends daughter was going to college out the at the time. The whole thing was very fishy.

Perhaps, just maybe Condit has an idea about it and what the possibilities are. Could Cheny be involved?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks, Blondie. I've been Googling things connected with that link for hours- very informative.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls - what do you think of the theory in the article regarding Chandra, Condit and Cheney?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it makes sense, Blondie.


We know that Condit was with Cheney at 12:30 pm that day. Cheney or his secretary stated it was a 20 minute meeting. Condit had originally made it seem as though it had been much longer. Then later lied about a meeting with a reporter that she corrected for him. Opps. Seems he wanted to have his time covered that day. Or maybe he just forgot?

Chandra left her apartment at 1 pm-

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call was probably made from a pay phone to her landline. Someone probably picked her up to meet someone at the park or perhaps took her there themselves OR maybe she rode his bike up there and returned it to him. Wil we ever REALLY know?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting but I don't buy into it as a theory at all.

Would like Rd's opinion.

May cause some health problems too, but don't think it is the cause at all of Fibro or CFS, (just my opinion),

Would like to thank you Blondie for the article though and Skipper of course for all your hard work. Did not get to read your link yet as it took me sometime to get through the article.

I think the two diseases you mention are way to complex for this to be the answer (sidenote).

Always
your buddy Goz
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: skipper Reply with quote

Skipper:

read your links, very interesting. I think it is one component of the illnesses you mentioned.

Thank you so much for the needed information and hard work finding them.

Have a good one

Goz.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree- that it is a component , Goz (of Fibro/CFS)- not the cause.

Later- I will post what I believe IS the cause of the breakdown of the immune system of so many Americans.

Just the facts, lol

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, I'll excerpt the most egregious claims:

If I were a congressman on Capitol Hill looking for a discreet sexual relationship for when I’m in Washington DC, a city flush with young impressionable minds from all over the country many of which are hoping for some kind of validation from someone in power where they will do anything to get, I certainly wouldn’t chose a one from my hometown, the daughter on some of my constituents.


Actually, being a constituent was cover for Condit's relationship with Chandra. Look at every statement he's ever made about Chandra.

And he hired a waitress in Sacramento in a bar where he and other state legislators hung out and moved her in with him and made her the highest paid aide on his staff. So don't tell me about must choose someone from somewhere else to have an affair.



But if that were the case, I would obviously leave evidence everywhere I could think to that lead back to what I was doing, which none was ever found that suggested there was anything going on between Chandra Levy and Gary Condit .


There's a particularly insightful statement. Thanks for sharing that with me.



...even though when she went missing, Condit had an airtight alibi. He was with the Vice President of the United States.


for 20 minutes, before Chandra even signed off her computer. This guy is on a roll. My leg is starting to tingle.



In fact even if they’d been having sex, which there has never been any hint of evidence that suggests they were, I’ve just never heard of that being a motive for murder, especially when there’s no way Condit could have murdered her since, like I said, he was taking care of the business of the people in his district at the time meeting with the Vice President of the United States.


One of the more coherent statements made here, which given the rest, is not much.

The motive wasn't that they had had sex, it was a threat to Condit's continuation as a congressman from the conservative farming district he represented in California's Central Valley.

Chandra vowed to Sven to confront Condit about his broken promises to her to leave his "terminally ill" wife and marry her, and then made the fatal mistake of asking him about a black minister's claim of an affair between Condit and his daughter.

He "explained it all", but after that Chandra disappeared.

That's all I have time for right now, I'll continue this fascinating read as soon as I can. I think this guy says less in more words than anyone I have ever read, not to mention very little he says of the Chandra Levy case is true.

rd

click to read the online true crime mystery novel Murder on a Horse Trail: The Disappearance of Chandra Levy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RD states:

Quote:
I think this guy says less in more words than anyone I have ever read, not to mention very little he says of the Chandra Levy case is true.


I agree- I have wanted to quote that for days... It made my day.

Goz
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confession- what I learned from the article/blog- was about the MTBE - the additives in gasoline- 1979 thru 2006. Could be something that Chandra learned from Condit. Some inside secret?

This subject is HUGE. The connections to the Bush Administration and the major producer of the MTBE-Enron- is telling.


http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/oxy/oxy.htm

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/Oxy/wav/052201.pdf

The above is a letter- gray Davis to President Bush- re: MTBE
May 22, 2001

The battle over the MTBE's in the gasoline had been ongoing for years by 2001.At that time, there was a concentrated effort to eliminate the product on the part of informed Californians- and Gary Condit's consituients were at the front of the pack- protesting.

What you need to know about MTBE production is that Enron was one of the major producers of the stuff-

In 2001, Enron was 'playing' with the electric of Californians (for big profits) at the expense of the citizens. The company was very busy back then- not just with their bogus books (fraud) but in many other areas. MTBE's is just one and we are still dealing with the consequences of the product to this day.

Enron- producing 199,000 barrels of MTBE per day

Enron- the largest contributor to George W Bush's Presidential campaign:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1295/is_9_64/ai_65014758

Excerpt:

Texas activists say that the tight connection between Bush and Lay bodes

ill if Bush is elected.

**

Tom Delays- Enron connection:

ENRON'S COLLAPSE: THE DONATIONS; Enron's Ties to a Leader of House

Republicans Went Beyond Contributions to His Campaign



http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE4DB1338F935A25752C0A964

9C8B63

http://tinyurl.com/5qheso



By ALISON MITCHELL
Published: January 16, 2002
Excerpt:

It is well known that the Enron Corporation lavished money and attention on

political figures all over the nation's capital. But for an insight into

how carefully the company cultivated members of Congress, look no further

than its efforts to please its home state powerhouse, Representative Tom

DeLay.

end excerpt

Saudi Connection

http://tinyurl.com/5nobpq


Tom Delay fought hard to protect those producing the MTBE product

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=tom_delay

11/16/2003; Associated Press, 11/16/2003; Christian Science Monitor,

11/19/2003]bullet

A controversial provision granting Gulf Coast refiners of the fuel

additive MTBE $2 billion in subsidies to assist them in the phasing out of

MTBE production. The phase-out, originally proposed to take 4 years, is

extended to 10 by the bill. MTBE, or methyl tertiary-butyl ether, which

helps decrease smog, is known to contaminate groundwater. The new energy

bill would also prevent communities from bringing product liability

lawsuits against the manufacturers of MTBE. Tom Delay was a strong

supporter of this provision, as were other legislators from Louisiana and

Texas, where MTBE is produced. [New York Times, 11/15/2003; Washington

Post, 11/16/2003; Associated Press, 11/16/2003; Christian Science
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/MTBE/ReformulatedGasoline.htm

Reformulated Gasoline: A Source of Illness
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