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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed something interesting

In one of the recent articles about the missing person's day in Tallahassee, Florida that Mr and Mrs Kesse attended...

[i]But, Drew and Joyce Kesse are going a step further. It's been a year-and-a-half since their daughter Jennifer disappeared from her Orlando apartment complex.

Now, they're asking lawmakers to clear Florida’s DNA backlog, which is thousands of samples from felons that haven't been registered

“Let's think about the people that live here and the people that are taken, and we have to do something to stem the crime, and this is just one little part of it all,” said Drew and Joyce Kesse.

The Kesse’s think bringing the state's DNA database up to speed could be key to solving their daughter's case.[/i]


That definitely sounds like the cops did indeed collect some DNA from Jennifer's car. It would be easy to eliminate it being her DNA as they could get a sample from her parents and also they could get a sample from her boyfriend to compare it. So they might have some DNA from her car from the suspect. I recall the reporter said the cops wouldn't say what kind of DNA they found. Hair that could be used to get the suspect's DNA? Blood? Semen? Would the cops not want to reveal if there was signs of a violent crime in the car? I don't think so based on other cases they don't seem to hide those details.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2007/9/10/missing_childrens_day_held_in_tallahassee.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm positive that there was dna collected from her car. But no hits in any database.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of the "phone" Sparta, I wonder if LE ever checked to see if the person who left the phone behind in Jennifer's apartment ever used their phone since Jennifer went missing? Why did that young man need his phone so desperately?

Then again, it may have been the content - what was on the phone that concerned him?

The man would have had days to buy a disposable phone- if he just needed a cell, right? Jennifer had been home for over 24 hours when she was asked to send/Fedex the phone back to him.

The devil's in the details.

I also wonder if Jennifer ever met the POI. On her website, there is a mention that she was concerned about the construction crew.

I know the current theory revolves around a random attack/kidnapping, but I think otherwise. Too precise to be random, IMO.

No one is that lucky.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laskipper,

no no nothing suspicious about the guy wanting his cell phone back asap. us young people rely on our cell phones a great deal! many people these days don't even have a landline any more. with the low rates cell phone plans, a lot of people just have a cell. I have a landline but only my immediate family knows that number and they still call me on my cell phone cause that's what I prefer. it's possible nobody would be able to get a hold of the guy if he didn't have his cell phone on him. Another thing is most don't even know other people's phone numbers. what everyone does is, when they first get their phone or meet somebody new, they type the name and number into the address book that's on just about every cell phone. then if you wanna call a certain person from that point on, you look them up on your phone's address book and click their name and the call is made, never even having to look at the phone number. I don't even know my best friend's cell phone # for example. I just have it stored on my phone. Also cell phones now have the internet access and double as MP3 players. So we're pretty dependent on them! It's always a big hassle when a cell phone is lost or broken. Sometimes when I go outta town, if I forget my charger it's so annoying cause I have to make sure the battery doesn't die. Plus I imagine the friend didn't demand Jennifer send his phone off. He probably said something like "hey if you could please send that to me when you get a chance" and Jennifer, being a kind person and understanding people need their phones these days was more than happy to send it off overnight. I think everyone at some point has forgotten their cell phone or lost it or had one broken. I'd be the same way if I left my cell phone somewhere that wasn't close to home. It's a real hassle.

As for your belief that it was not a random abduction, yes absolutely the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of Jennifer knowing her kidnapper. I think the statistic was something like 75% of abducted women know their attacker. But somebody in the FBI said in his opinion it was more like 90%. Personally I think it may have been someone Jennifer would recognize (maybe just an acquaintance) or maybe exchanged some brief conversation with, perhaps somebody her family wouldn't know about. I think if it was somebody really close to her, and therefore her family would know this person, they would've either recognized him in the picture or put 2 and 2 together when thinking of all the people close to Jennifer. It could also be somebody that knew Jennifer but she didn't know him! A stalker or something. Can't rule anything out.


rd,

I may be mistaken but I thought you said there was a bike patrol station nearby. It must be nearby the Kinko's on that Orange Blossom Street? Not Huntington but closer to the Kinko's, no?

and yes seeing as how they evidently can't see the taser holster and the bike helmet and even his face as he turned back either towards the car or towards the camera, I'm not too confident they are doing anything on this case. Oh and the height of the suspect ludicrous! I could tell from some of the pictures that there was an elevated foundation of the pool area from the parking lot road. Plus the tree was right there and with the odd angle pointing diagonal towards the suspect, inexplicable they could've screwed up the height. He is a normal height male, not 5'3"-5'5"

I have wondered about the UCF campus police and if that may be a factor. Another thing nobody ever talks about, but it's kind of a longshot anyway, is they should take a look at her boyfriend's friends.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

once again....

Police are now releasing a timeline as to when they think Jennifer's car came through the South John Young Parkway corridor and detectives are scouring the store surveillance tapes hoping one of the cameras captured something to narrow the timeline.

Detectives think Jennifer herself, or someone else, was traveling on South John Young Parkway, between Texas and Americana and Conroy Road by the Mall of Millenia, during that time frame.

How do they know? And why don't they release the footage they have of this? Also, her family and friends stood at the corner of South John Young Parkway and Conroy/Americana for months and months with signs, maybe they still do, I'm not sure. And if you go to the JK website, click on aerial view, you will see the area where Mosaic is and HOTG. They pinned one spot down titled B as where her car was found. Then at the intersection of JYP and Conroy/Americana they pinned that spot down as F. What is F? Why did they pin that spot down? Must be important. How do they know the car went through there? The car could've made a right when leaving the Mosaic and gone past the Mall at Millenia area.

If it's true what the article says and the car was traveling on South John Young Parkway, it would mean the car was traveling for a while around Orlando, at least not straight from Mosaic to HOTG.

And with her briefcase, ipod, and the package with the friend's cell phone all missing, it doesn't appear to have been a nighttime attack. it's unlikely she would've gotten out of bed late to deliver that phone. There was certainly no sign of any struggle in her condo. It would be great to know what exactly the conversation with the friend was like about sending off the cell phone, when she planned to do it, and how she was gonna send it. and it's too bad we can't see what her internet activity was. she likely would've looked online to find a place to ship the phone off.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bitch who has been threatening this poor family has been identified and a warrant has been issued.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2007/11/2/kesses_receive_threatening_phone_calls.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wonder why this guy would do such a thing? Does he know the perp? Did he have dealings with the company where Jennifer worked? Does he know the family members?

What happened recently that set this guy off?

The cops must be thinking he is somehow linked to the kidnapping.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that'd be sweet if the guy were the actual kidnapper or knew the one who did it or was involved in some way. I wish the one who took Jennifer was that stupid.

more than likely, though, it's just some loser who thinks it's fun to play mean tricks on grieving families. I read an earlier article where somebody from out of state, Michigan I think, also sent a harrassing call to them but it was just a prankster.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did a little background on Tyler Green- he's a poor little rich kid. I know he doesn't look it from the picture- but nevertheless...


I did a Google search and found numerous Tyler Greens at Zoom Info but can't nail this one (confirm it is one and the same). The one that comes the closest is a lighting technician for a band.

Funny, that. Only because I have a theory about Jennifer that involves a band/s.

Could be that he's just a loose cannon.

ls

PS He is not the POI- perp- his neck is too thick.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good research laskipper

i'm interested to hear you theory about Jennifer and bands. can you elaborate?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goz- for you- and for Sparta, by request

(know that it's after 1 in the morning- sorry if this doesn't make a lot of sense)

My theory #1 revolves around several facts.

That Lou Pearlman, creator/manager of numerous bands- Florida based (Orlando), Backstreet Boys and "N Sync", O-Town, Lyte Funky Ones, Take 5, Natural, US5, Aaron Carter, Jordan Knight, Smilez & Southstar
C-Note

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Pearlman


Scroll down to:

*Boy Band Scandals
and
*Pedophilia and Inappropriate Conduct

* Pearlman skimming his bands for 75% of the profits- using deceptive techniques and the ensuing lawsuits

www.taxi.com/faq/ar/fenster.html

**

Pearlman owns 2 condos in the Mosaic at Millenium- purchased in the same general time frame that Jennifer purchased her condo

* Lou Pearlman lived elsewhere- down the street from the condos- not in the development

Speculation:

* Could be he had the condos as a place for his band members and their roadies to live and/or party? Entertain?

Fact:

Lou Pearlman is currently in jail in Florida- pending some serious charges. Bank fraud and the like- He was indicted by a Federal Grand Jury, Orange County jail- see subsequent posts below.


* (3 counts of bank fraud- mail fraud and wire fraud- seems he defrauded some 1000 investors out of more than $315 million)


* Several month ago, Lou Pearlman had a visitor in jail/prison- one David Siegel. (see articles in posts below)

*David Siegel is the owner of Jennifer Kesses' place of employment - Westgate Resorts (which goes by about 14 other names).


Siegel,who now lives in Las Vegas and is soon to open a Planet Hollywood Resort in that area (1200 units- a Westgate timeshare property)- flys to Florida to visit Lou Pearlman in prison.

Why?

a An old friend ?

b A business partner?

c Wants to cut a deal on some of Pearlmans' assets?

d Something else

e All the above


(David Siegel is one of the Florida's richest men)


David Siegel had offered 1 million for the safe return of Jennifer Kesse. What was that about?

Back to the Bands-

At the time that Jennifer purchased her condo- there were, according to the various articles, only a handful of units that were sold. 2 of them were owned by Pearlman- either in the same building or nearby. Astounding odds, I'd say.

It it my theory that the POI- is a:

a Band member

b Roadie- crew member

c Groupie (more likely)

It's no secret that band members and their crews as well as the groupies are all about party time to include drinking/drugging.

If- the band members had access to the Pearlman condo- or maybe they had their own investment condo in the complex- that would explain their presence in the area.

Headlines a while back reported that Backstreet Boy Nick Carter dated Paris Hilton. Paris broke it off with Carter when he became physically abusive with her. I mention this only to point out that the band members seemed to be disrespectful toward women, not to point at any one person.

Another band member recently bowed out of the bands' "comeback" tour- Kevin Richardson who was the oldest member. Why?

(above just an aside, but makes me wonder why)


What I see on the shirt of the POI is a Guitar. (sorry rd- I could be wrong)- Could it be a Security person for a band?

What another person (WS) sees is ESP

* ESP is a high end guitar- used by many bands

As an aside- the POI drove to a "seedy" area of town- just a mile from the Mosiac. The complex is known for drugs (users/dealers), according to articles I've read. Seems the sort of place that bands may be aware of?

Had he been there before?


More later.


ls

As an aside- lots of Lou Pearlmans assets will be going on Ebay soon. I read that a condo will be sold- will confirm if it is one of the Mosaic condos.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Planet Hollywood, Las Vegas, grand opening is Nov 16, 2007


http://www.planethollywood.com/

Comings and Goings
A Las Vegas Close-Up for Planet Hollywood

Article Tools Sponsored By
By HILARY HOWARD
Published: November 4, 2007

Movie fans visiting Las Vegas can now stay and play at the new Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino (www.planethollywood.com). Formerly the Aladdin, the property was rebranded last April and underwent a billion-dollar renovation. It will be celebrating its grand opening on Nov. 16 and 17.

Current shows include “The Beauty of Magic,” starring Hans Klok and Pamela Anderson, and “Stomp Out Loud,” which is performed in a new $28 million theater built specifically for the show. Restaurants include Koi (Japanese-inspired cuisine), Strip House (steak), Yolo’s (Mexican food) and Planet Dailies (a coffee shop).

The hotel has 2,600 rooms and suites decorated with movie memorabilia and a lobby with floor-to-ceiling Swarovski crystal chandeliers. There are also custom-built high-definition movie theaters for premieres, and a 100,000-square-foot casino. Room rates typically range from $169 to $399; discounted rates are available online.


**

Article- re the Las Vegas Project:

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2006/04/03/daily29.html?jst=s_cn_hl

Wednesday, April 5, 2006
Siegel's Vegas time share affiliates with Interval International

**

I had a better article about the Planet Hollywood property and David Siegel- but can't find it. Will post- if and when.

The planning stage (and the article) were found in the time frame of Jennifer's going missing.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Older article - re: a former employee of CFI- aka Westgate Resorts:

http://www.sptimes.com/2

Excerpt:

The spy - and the man she busted

Using womanly skills, a young Israeli agent snares a whistleblower. Now, his pending release revives the notorious case.

By SUSAN TAYLOR MARTIN, Times Senior Correspondent
Published March 21, 2004

ORLANDO - She drives a red Cutlass convertible and lives in a gated community. Like thousands of others, she worked in that quintessential Florida profession - selling real estate.

At 44, Cheryl Hanin leads an unremarkable life. It is a far cry from the past, when she was known as "Cindy" and had a very different career:

Spying for the Mossad, Israel's crack intelligence service.

**SNIP**

Scroll down in the article- nearly the bottom:


Excerpt:

Until recently, state records showed Hanin had an active real estate sales license and was employed by CFI Sales & Marketing of Orlando. But CFI, whose Westgate Resorts is one of the world's largest timeshare companies, said Hanin was terminated in 1997, the same year the Sunday Times found her in Orlando.

CFI president David A. Siegel said Hanin likely was fired because she did not meet sales goals. He said he had heard about the Vanunu controversy, but had no idea Hanin was involved.

"We had someone like that working for us?" he asked.

After the St. Petersburg Times began looking into Hanin's background, state records were changed to show her license is inactive, with no reference to CFI. Officials could not say who requested the change: CFI says it did not.

**

More than likely this is nothing- has no bearing- but maybe more goes on at Westgate than meets the eye?

Just FYI

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lou Pearlman's New Nerd Bait Auction!
loupearlman.jpg
PEARL DIVING Lou
A bankruptcy trustee is selling off more memories from the

$12 million foreclosed Orlando home of Lou Pearlman, the

Svengali behind the Backstreet Boys, 'N Sync, $160 million

worth of federal bank fraud charges, and quite possibly

the biggest Ponzi scheme in U.S. history.

Orlando news station WFTV talks to David Siegel, a

timeshare mogul who visited the boy-band wonder in jail

and says Pearlman insists he's innocent,
adding that he

wasn't running from the law or hiding out in Bali, as

everyone knew he was there (save for, like, the FBI and

the couple thousand people he owed money to). He also said

Pearlman is trying to get out of jail on bond, a move a

judge has previously denied, calling him a "serious flight

risk."



In a previous auction, his treasures—gold and platinum boy

band records and various trophies—netted about $225,000

for debtors. This time, as Pearlman sits in an

11-foot-by-7-foot Orange County jail cell, we learn that

he was a massive Trekkie and an honorary Jedi who owned a

framed homage to the Original Pancake House, an Obi Wan

cookie jar, and what might be the tastiest collection of

nerd bait every assembled under one roof.

[Highlights after the jump!]

• Star Wars Talking Piggy Bank with C3PO and R2D2

• 12-inch Darth Vader telephone

• Framed Pink Floyd Blimp

• Certificate of authenticity attached, framed and signed

Buzz Aldren photo

• Seaworld Blimp flying over Cinderella's castle

• Framed print of "Natural" members

• Framed Rat Pack picture collage signed by Frank Sinatra,

Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Joey Bishop, and Peter

Lawford

• Framed poster of Original Pancake House

• Star Wars Episode II framed poster autographed "Happy

Birthday to Lou" by unknown gifter

• Framed "Lavender Nebula" print by Mark Rickerson

• Framed signed photo of Darth Vader to LJP

• Framed LJP signature analysis

• Star Trek Communicator and stand

• Limited-edition "Obi Wan Kenobi" Cookie Jar

• 58-inch Coca-Cola machine

• Avirex leather jacket, size 4XL

• Numbered salvaged piece from the Titanic

• 4 Rosenthal Versace Medusa candle holders

• Artwork by Lou Pearlman

• Anthony Robbins "Personal Power," three sets

• Box of shell art, 2 steins, and statue

• 2 "Pearlman Estate" doormats

• Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring prop

Full listing of the auction inventory here.
By Tyler Gray 08/09/07 11:28 AM
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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/08/lou-pearlman

(dead link- so I pulled another to confirm David Siegel visit)

http://blogs.tampabay.com/money/2007/09/a-look-at-lous-.html

A look at Lou's life behind bars

PearlmanbookingLou Pearlman is kept in "protective custody" at the Orange County Jail, which means he is separated from other inmates. He gets out of his cell for an hour or so each day to shower and enjoy the "day room," where there is a television and a telephone--but only when no other inmates are there. He has no access to the Internet. Weather permitting, he also gets an hour outdoors in an area where there is a basketball court, a couple of pull-up bars and benches. Typically, inmates out by themselves just walk around the basketball court in circles. He has no television in his cell and cannot see the day room television unless he is standing to look out the small window in his door. He can read materials from the jail library.

The only people Lou talks to face to face are the correctional officers and his lawyers. He also is allowed three 45-minute visits per week, conducted over a video visitation system, where each party sees the other on a television screen and talks on a telephone. Since he's been back in Orlando, Lou typically has had two or three visits per week (two people who come together count as one visit).

Lou's most frequent visitors are Tammie and Michael Hilton of Orlando. Others who have been to see him include Laura and Brittany Dunn, David Siegel and David Hedrick. John Ryan, Allan Siegel and Joseph Jacoboni scheduled visits, but they did not take place, according to jail records.

(Photo credit: booking photo)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skipper- I think it is a feasible scenario in the works. Stick with it. Since I still can't get the pics on my compute is that the actual shirt that is posted? I knew a lot about bands from my past and would also want someone to take a peek at the shirt too.

Your conclusion of a couple of band lives is correct that they may engage in drug use and get violent. Roadies tend to be of the same style

I love you hard work and interest and you may be going in a different direction but I would like to see where it leads Skipper. At this juncture, in an open case, we have to look at all the alternatives.

I'm rather impressed. The guitar was a great find!!!

I too am working on no sleep so if I don't add more that is why, or if I don't make sense.

Great thinking.

Thank you for sharing this. I just asked you in a note about your theory.

Always
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