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James Anderson



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Chandra Levy: Five years later Reply with quote

Admin note:

Because so many Google searches return this Chandra Levy: Five Years Later thread in Background Information on Chandra Levy, here are links to the latest on the Guandique trial in Latest News:

Background and analysis:

Robert Levy testifies against Guandique

Guandique trial

Guandique pretrial motions

Guandique Trial Postponed, New charges to come!

Guandique Murder Analysis

Prosecutor seeks life sentence for Guandique

Guandique's Defense

Guandique indicted by DC federal grand jury

Guandique to be charged with Chandra's Murder Feb.20/09

Washington Post investigation of Chandra Levy cold case

Murder on a Horse Trail Chapter 24. Guandique

click to read the online true crime mystery novel Murder on a Horse Trail: The Disappearance of Chandra Levy

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At the five year anniversary of Chandra Levy's disappearence there is no resolution. Why? Because there were, and ARE, people in positions of power who WANT it to remain that way. Either that, or blame it on some vulnerable nobody like Ingmar Guandique. I get the impression that these people want to believe that enough time has passed so that everybody has forgotten about the Chandra Levy case, so now they can just lie outright and nobody will know otherwise, or care enough to contradict them. They want us to forget that Condit refused to take a police lie detector test, while Ingmar Guandique passed one. They want us to forget that Ralph Durant and Lawrence Kennedy, the DC detectives assigned to the case, were convinced that someone she KNEW had lured her into the woods and killed her. They want us to forget that Condit was the ONLY one she was seeing at the time of her murder. They want us to forget that Condit had no alibi for the afternoon of May 1 2001. They want us to forget that Condit made up provable lies about his whereabouts that afternoon. They want us to forget that Condit lied about his relationship with Chandra.

It's also more than a little strange that Condit now owns a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store in Arizona, considering it was reported that Chandra looked up the location of the nearest Baskin-Robbins just before she disappeared on May 1 2001, and that a Baskin-Robbins container was found next to her remains. Maybe a part of him WANTS to be caught? Or is it just arrogance?

Why these people are covering for Condit only they know. If I were to advise the Levy's on how to finally bring a resolution to this case, I would suggest that they come out publicly and STATE OPENLY that they believe Gary Condit killed their daughter, openly present ALL of the evidence, and NAME those who are responsible for protecting him. There is no way Condit or anyone else would DARE sue the Levy's, and they could turn up the heat very effectively. When Guandique passed the lie detector test, and there were virtually no similarities between his crimes and Chandra Levy's murder, they realized that angle wouldn't work, and they couldn't find another patsy to pin it on, so they just dropped it altogether.

I believe Gary Condit killed Chandra Levy with his own two hands. But there are people in Washington who would want to keep a current, or former congressman from standing trial for killing his girlfriend while he was in office. It would be a stain on all of them, as they see it, and they're already hated enough as it is. Was Terrance Gainer, the Executive DC Police Chief during the Levy investigation, appointed Head of the Capitol Building Security in 2002, after the Levy case had been put on the back burner, just coincidentally, or was it a REWARD?

We know that this was no ordinary murder. We know that there were, and ARE, some very powerful people behind this cover-up. Five years is a very long time. And it sometimes takes longer than that for the truth to come out in cases like this. And if that's true, then we will all have to start turning up the heat on these rats, if we are EVER going to get Justice for Chandra.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well said, James. I think the DC police and FBI, whoever is investigating this, if anybody is taking responsibility, should account to the Levy's their answers to every question we have posed in Murder on a Horse Trail.

Or account for why they refuse to get the answers. But an accounting is due, whatever it takes to get it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

two other articles - better than the others.

http://www.modbee.com/local/story/12120163p-12869304c.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/30/AR2006043001171.html
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, blondie, excellent articles from Michael Doyle at ModBee and Alan Lengel at Washington Post.

Mostly insight into police thinking. Ramsey continues to be "optimistic", just like he was five years ago. He is the ultimate happy talker.

Garrett of FBI sounded like he wanted to solve the case before he retires, but he retires in August.

He thinks it'll take a confession to solve it. He sounds like he's past the happy talk stage.

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But we still do not hear the whole story from start to finish. We do not hear about Chandra possibly confronting Condit in response to a request from her mother.

We do not see or read the conversation between Mrs. Levy and Preacher Gardener Otis Thomas just shortly before Chandra disappeared. We do not read anything about why Otis Thomas did not receive legal representation when he was questioned by the FBI. One witness, a congressman, has a lawyer at his side at all times, another witness a Pentecostal Preacher does not have a lawyer. Is that justice? Is that a search for truth? Is that good news reporting?

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you're right, benn, it's not good news reporting, it's reporting good news, happy talk from the police who give the requisite song and dance until people go away.

The police seem satisfied not to answer any of those questions. Do they have answers? If it rules people out, then why not say what they are?

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rd This seems to rule out justice for people on the lower ladders of the economy, or the social structure. Of course that does not mean that everything is all bad, only that there are cracks in the system.

I will probably reluctantly have more to say on this subject, but it looks like one of the most unpopular subjects around.

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote from Baltimore's wjz.com, about where Chandra was found in Rock Creek Park:

"Former Congressman Condit lived not too far from here, but she would regularly travel by metro up close to this location," FBI Special Agent Brad Garrett tells WJZ's Adam May.

Hello, the regular traveling was to Condit's apartment.

rd


from wjz.com (fair use)

Five Years Later, Levy's Case Still Bitterly Cold
Adam May Reporting
wjz.com
May 8, 2006

(WJZ) WASHINGTON It was a case that gained national attention and remains as one of the most well-known cold cases in America. Chandra Levy, an intern in Washington, D.C., vanished five years ago before her remains were found in a nearby park. Her murderer remains at large and the mystery has tormented her parents to this day, but now they are using new resources to push for a break in the investigation.

The Levy's, residing in Modesto, Calif., are still doing everything they can to solve their daughter's murder as they desperately want answers.

"Some days you wake up, and you don't even want to get out of bed, it's painful," says Susan Levy, Chandra's mother.

The pain, however, has now turned into daily frustration.

"We are frustrated they haven't solved it yet, and some things are hard or impossible to solve," admits her father, Bob Levy.

"We were robbed, and I am so determined," adds Susan.

Levy was a Washington, D.C. intern for the United State Bureau of Prisons when she vanished in 2001. The case gained national attention when questions surfaced about her alleged romantic relationship with California Congressman Gary Condit. Levy was originally from Condit's district and he was publicly accused of hiding information that could have helped the investigation.

But Condit repeatedly denied involvement.

A year after disappearing, Levy's body was found in Rock Creek Park, and police felt the discovery was their big break that would lead them to her murderer. But ever since, investigators haven't been able to figure out how Levy ended up there.

"Former Congressman Condit lived not too far from here, but she would regularly travel by metro up close to this location," FBI Special Agent Brad Garrett tells WJZ's Adam May.

Still, Garrett says investigators are puzzled by the fact that Levy got directions to Rock Creek Park on the Internet before she left. At this point, they have two theories as to what exactly happened.

"Did she get to this location, because it was a nice day and someone followed her that didn't know her, and attacked her in the woods, and she died? Or did someone meet her here, or did she walk here with someone, and it went afoul on the trail and she was attacked?" Garrett asks.

Levy's cause of death remains unknown, but police have questioned numerous sexual offenders who frequent the park to no avail.

Police also say Condit has never been considered a suspect, although the public scrutiny cost him reelection. He's moved to Arizona since.

In hopes of putting an end to their daughter's murder mystery, the Levy family just launched "WhoKilledChandraLevy.Com," seeking new leads.

"If it doesn't solve it, it's just another thing we're trying," says Bob Levy. "We have our hopes anyway."

For the Levy's, home movies serve as a constant reminder of their loss and fuel their frustration that there's been no arrest in this bitterly cold case.

"I keep going through stages of grief. It never leaves. Life is never quite the same," admits Susan.

The Chandra Levy murder is one of about 6,000 cold cases in Washington, D.C. But police say solving it is a priority.

(© MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... It's also more than a little strange that Condit now owns a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store in Arizona


good to hear from you, james ...

and thanks for drawing attention to that connection of sorts ... it's a coincidence i hadn't noticed before, and i've even called the family baskin robbins store in arizona and spoken to chad. i have to wonder if maybe you're right about that particular business choice being either a colossal act of arrogance or a classic illustration of the ancient warning that truth will always out. overall, i'd say you'll find lots of agreement with your opinions here ... the only point where i would really disagree with you at all is that i think brother darrell condit did the dirty deed, and i think she was killed and temporarily hidden in luray before her body was planted in rock creek park.


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, The History Channel highlights on this day in history with the following about Chandra:

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This Day In History | Crime

May 22

2002 Chandra Levy's remains found

The remains of former Federal Bureau of Prisons intern Chandra Levy are found on this day in 2002, over a year after the 24-year-old was last seen at a health club. The bone remains, discovered by a man walking through Washington D.C.’s Rock Creek Park, were identified through dental records. A sweatshirt, sneakers and a Sony Walkman cassette player were also found in the vicinity.

Levy, a native of Modesto, California, had been working in Washington as part of her Master’s degree program at the University of Southern California, though her academic eligibility to work at the Prisons Bureau had expired shortly before her death and she had been scheduled to return to California for her school graduation. Levy’s parents reported Chandra missing on May 1, 2001. What might have been a routine missing-persons investigation became the subject of intense national media coverage when it was discovered that Levy had had an affair with then-U.S. Representative Gary Condit (D-CA), a married 53-year-old grandfather whose congressional district included Levy’s hometown of Modesto. Although police did not name Condit as a suspect, suspicion was rampant, among the Levy family and the popular media, that Condit was withholding information from investigators.

Over the year-long investigation into Levy’s disappearance, police utilized phone-record and internet-usage searches, used bloodhounds to follow Levy’s scent and conducted hundreds of interviews, but few leads materialized. After finding evidence of an internet search performed on her computer for Rock Creek Park’s Klingle Mansion, police searched the park, but found nothing.

An autopsy was performed on Levy’s remains and police pronounced her death a homicide on May 29, 2002. In subsequent weeks, police questioned Ingmar Guandique, who was then serving prison time for assaults on two women in Rock Creek Park, but did not press charges against him. Levy’s murder has not been solved and is now classified by the Washington D.C. police department as a cold case.

Gary Condit lost his Congressional re-election bid, failing to win the primary election in March 2002, a defeat widely attributed to his association with the disappearance of Chandra Levy.

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Let's hope Chandra's case isn't history.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This summary from The History Channel is technically correct as far as believing Bureau of Prisons statements go, but even with that dubious distinction it is very misleading:

Levy, a native of Modesto, California, had been working in Washington as part of her Master’s degree program at the University of Southern California, though her academic eligibility to work at the Prisons Bureau had expired shortly before her death and she had been scheduled to return to California for her school graduation.

I analyze Chandra's internship in chapter BOP and come to the conclusion that in no way can the BOP's statements concerning her internship ending be possible.

Part of that involves the statement that she was scheduled to return home for her graduation. What is not mentioned is that while she was planning to return to California for her graduation ceremony, that was all she was returning for. She was to head right back to Washington to continue her internship job at the BOP while she pursued moving into a permanent job at the FBI.

Makes just a little bit of difference, doesn't it?

What is even more revealing is that while planning to return home for her graduation, she had no flight ticket. When she had flown home once before Condit paid for it, including billing her return flight to his campaign finance fund and recording it as himself taking the flight.

One can only expect that is why she didn't book a flight for her graduation ceremony. It can also be expected that a purpose for Chandra to meet with Condit was to get her flight ticket home from him, as she surely expected.

But instead she disappeared.

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rd, this is a little late, but my thoughts are still the same. One of the best things that might happen in this case is if someone with a piece of paper in their hand, obviously an attorney, or someone with legal authority, would place their piece of paper on the desk of a court clerk, or some other similar posting place for legal matters, and some kind of legal proceeding could start.

How this might happen is if someone, or some group, has enough money to hire some private eyes, and an attorney or two, to look a little farther into the Chandra Levy case.

This does happen once in a while in criminal cases. The O.J. case was one example. We see in some up to date cases on this board where family and friends are stepping up to get into the legal frey in cases where their loved ones were killed.

Maybe we could start a similar cases topic here showing some criminal cases which were helped by friends and relatives stepping into the legal arena. People stepping into the legal arena is different from people who suddenly appear as witnesses.

I still remember the case of the attorney in Sacramento who was murdered by his wife and a friend of the wife. The frozen ground was too hard for the two women to dig a hole in to bury their victim, but they did eventually bury him in a shallow grave in an orchard.

We compared that case to the theory that Chandra Levy had first been buried in some location other than where she was eventually found.

We have not yet ran out of ideas about how to find a suspect in Chandra's case, and to see if the suspect is the correct suspect.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello RD,

You make two important points above. I'd never considered the idea of Condit offering to pay for her trip home for graduation. That would certainly explain why she didn't book. But we do have the report that she had emailed information to her parents about flights..as if to have them pay for it. I'm not sure what to think.

On your other point. The tenure of the internship was locked in with her classes, wasn't it? According to the Washington Semester prospectus published by USC it should have expired sometime in April and Chandra should have been aware of this. There was a set number of days.

I can imagine her thinking was that she was doing a great job and would be asked to join the BOP as a regular employee. And that's where a nervous congressman might interfere and block the offer. But I never saw info that she could continue the USC-related internship after finishing classes and the allowed time after that.

By the way, did you get to see the E channel THS Investigates show? The FBI guy really did refer to a "horseshoe trail". I'm sure he's read your book, just by hearing that! Congratulations.

I'm heading down that way again next week. Still trying to find out who Chip Dent is and where Sven disappeared to. Although, my suspicion is that its something else even more sinister maybe the difficulty in finding these two guys is part of the mystery.

Cheerios,
James

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The publisher of Washingtonian Magazine mysteriously drowned over the weekend in the Chesapeake Bay. He might have taken some secrets down with him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RD!

Updating on the above. I went back and read the info in your book and now see that the email dealt with a connecting flight and not the DC to California travel plan. More possible that she was waiting for word from 'somebody' about when and how to travel home.

Has anyone heard back from the new Chandra site? I sent them a note and haven't heard anything.

What could be done to get her computer back, hopefully intact, and in the hands of some decent investigators ? Some kind of lawsuit to get it out of the mothballs at the FBI?

As an expert in computers would you be able to tell if the hard drive and all traces of Chandra's web activity had been erased or modified since May 1, 2001 if you got your hands on it?

Just asking,
James
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent a message to the new Chandra site also, James, and never heard back. I think they're only likely to respond to someone who has new information or evidence - not analysis of old stuff or suggestions on whom to interview or anything any of us might be likely to offer. Even then, they would probably only respond if necessary to obtain more information or verify something.
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