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[gozgals]

[gozgals]

P) His blogs, the journals, etc are a tangled mess of writings that the police will have to go through. It appears way too confusing to even follow. Much lies and distortion for me to even begin to work my way through.

As we all seem to agree on though-He appeared to be setting up an alibi. That seems to be pretty obvious. I'm not sure where the other kid fits in this theory. Maybe he wasn't lying to the police, and spiked the poly. - but he was willing to take it. I'm not sure. I was thinking maybe just a skateboarder that did not even know Taylor by name but in the group area of s.Boarders so he could have flashed on the tests. Also, drugs could have made him nervous.

As to the other missing gal, she is not national news like Taylor and that is the reason she is not getting coverage, (I Believe). After all, we do not see all the porno, the Ben F. lies, the blogs, etc.


--I think it is explained in the article and in a couple I read that she met a nutcase on the Internet too, and went missing. I will have to go back and read too.

Ben's age: Well, I think many parents just find it hard to believe what their children do (P). They tend to think , "not my children!" The man is also a chameleon of sorts. Did it actually say, "one of the parents met him?" There is so much information I forget, but I think it is obvious he is much older but you never know what information she may have given her parents. That is too much speculation. She could have said:

He is my skateboarding coach
my guitar teacher
my etc.

So that leaves too much to even think about

She was also attending college, not for long -- but moved there early.

I do believe just one thing at this time-Ben is guilty. And going through his pictures may be telling as to where the body is. He has many shots of different areas, and that is a good clue. The island may be one area to search but other's are just as telling.

Hair color changes, (shades of running is my thought) sounds familiar...

I am hoping Taylor is alive but at this point, that seems like it is not the case. At least we can be thankful that LE has their eye on someone.

GG)

[rd]

Good morning to you, goz. Let me explain about Taylor's father thinking the photographer was in his 20's and not an issue in Taylor's life. I saw an interview with him probably on Greta where Greta questioned him about this.

He brought Taylor to Richmond in February to visit the VCU campus to decide on going there after graduation. He brought her to the apartment of a friend of hers, a guy whose girlfriend was also a friend of hers. I believe they were friends of hers from home and apparently a year or so older and already off to college.

The photographer was the friends roommate. Her father met him, thought him to be in his twenties. The guy introduced himself, was personable, but was just a roommate not involved in Taylor's visit. The father did not see a threat, nor was there any to see as far as I could tell.

After Taylor is gone, this guy claims to his lawyer that he and Taylor were romantically involved from that visit. A careful look at what his lawyer is saying is that she fell for him at first sight visiting her friends, saw him again once in the summer when visiting Richmond for orientation, and then didn't see this guy who she allegedly fell head over heels with at first sight until two weeks after she moved to campus, conveniently the day she disappeared.

The lawyer also says that the photographer claims that the child pornography is on some computer that was an ex-roommate's that was left laying around.

I think it is safe to say that if Taylor were here she would set the record straight.

That's why she's gone.

rd

[gozgals]

thanks Rd for the explanation on Taylor and I'm sure she would explain it if she was here too. As stated: "he is a man with many changes!"

Also I would like to make a point about your forum, If I may. Feel free to erase it but it is a compliment. This is why I enjoy this forum rd.

What I like the most is:

When I read at other places, they tend to bash victims, over and over. Speculation goes way beyond speculation. Every aspect of a person's personal life is discussed to a degree that is unfair and not proven. I, and I have seen others write in and take offense to this. I admire the people on this FORUM, and many other forums online that do not indulge in that behavior.

I mean, I have seen victims friends, families, people part of cases write to forums, and just say, "PLEASE STOP" going on about such and such. I know it is open information and public but this is not necessary when you do not know the people involved or more than the LE, etc. I do agree with those statements.

I feel this forum is conducted in a proper manner. No, this is not kiss-ass at all rd. I find everyone acts in a certain accord here. Yes, we speculate but try to keep to the facts. We don't try to take every piece of information, dissect it, work it, and just tear people's lives apart. Two friends were over and asked me a question when reading a forum:

The question went something like this:

"What purpose does that serve to do this to people, and how is it helping?"

To be honest rd, and all here, I had no answer to this question.

I feel, and my opinion -- the only answers are to write letters, and express opinions and to investigate. Theories, and petty gossip about people normally just hurt.

----Most of what I read here, relates to Opinions and excellent writing by the members here. They are wise, and express themselves much better than I can at the present time. Though there are disagreements, we try to stick to facts. We do not run on and on about a certain crime, and have to pull people's lives apart.

To point out, we may feel someone is responsible for a crime that is one thing, but to dissect one's life, is just....well- I have no words for that.

Just some thoughts I wanted to share with you and all here.

Good day Sunday all.

Thanks.

----It is better to help society and not hurt it. Gossip only tends to destroy people......

I was also taught growing up-- It is kinder to compliment others , then to hurt them. I live by that theory in my life. It is always easier to find the differences in people, but better to find what we have in common!

GG)

[rd]

If the victim did something that leads to the understanding of the crime, then of course we have to deal with the truth of that, however unpleasant. But the sad fact is most of these women disappear for nothing more than becoming inconvenient to someone she loved, or is a rape victim, or both.

But I saw in Chandra and Laci's cases that there are people who get off on starting malicious rumors and seeing how many people bite and repeat it and post it elsewhere, to see how far it goes.

I have always pictured them as deviants like this Ben Frawley. They would never pass the smell test here.

rd

[rd]

Nancy Grace had an extended segment with Talor's mom tonight. And there was lots to talk about. The photographer was jailed for child porn, video showed he has cut his hair shorter and colored it differently, shades of Scott Peterson.

They covered all the points we've written about here, and covered it well. Even the mother is starting to question whether there was actually a sexual affair as the photographer claimed.

If only the DC police could have seen through Condit's alibi the way everyone is seeing through this guy's. It's refreshing to see real police investigators in action.

rd

[rd]

Nancy has a good panel on tonight, some new info. One of Taylor's friends is there, and she says Taylor did have a brief relationship with the guy but broke it off when she learned more about him. That would have been back in February, last winter.

He clearly kidnapped and raped her because she rejected his poser act.

Jim Moret of Inside Edition is an especially good panel member, making the points we've written here from the beginning. The only point I think they haven't made is that the photographer didn't just file a false abduction report for an alibi, he filed it to explain anything that is found that places him in the area where Taylor will be found, out in a field off a backroad I feel, just as he described where he was taken.

He probably even described what he did to Taylor as happening to himself so he could lie convincingly. If Taylor is found, undoubtedly off a dirt road somwhere, he will say the guy who kidnapped him came after him after he had murdered the photographer's girlfriend, Taylor, explaining any of Frawley's DNA that might be found with Taylor.

Only she wasn't his girlfriend.

rd

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[rd]

Jim Moret said that another set of tags were also stolen the night Taylor disappearaed, and Richmond police are looking for info from anyone who may have seen them. The tags were "GREN ERTH". I didn't catch if they have them or looking for them.

The inidcations are another car was involved in Taylor's disappearance besides her own. The tags on her car were changed, but maybe all he did was move it over close to the apartment of the guy she had dinner with.

The car they think had those plates is possibly the skateboarder's car the police searched. I don't feel another guy is involved though. This is his dirty deed.

rd

[peripeteia]

September 28, 2005
Police connect stolen license plate to missing girl
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Taylor Behl




RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Police say they are searching for anyone who might have information on a stolen license plate that may be connected to the case of a missing college student.

The personalized plate says "GRN ERTH."

Police say it was stolen in Richmond around the time 17-year-old Virginia Commonwealth University freshman Taylor Behl disappeared. They say early findings have linked the two events. But Richmond police spokeswoman Cynthia Price says the person it was stolen from is not connected to the case. Citing the ongoing investigation, she declined to release further details.

Behl was last seen the evening of September 5th. She told her roommate she would be back in a few hours. The teen's car was found two weeks later, less than two miles from her dorm. Her license plates had been replaced with Ohio plates reported stolen several weeks before she disappeared.
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=3911585&nav=S6aK

rd, above is the press release of the information you wrote in the above post regarding the stolen tags, Ohio license tags.
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A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision.

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Virginia News

Bones seized from home of man who had known missing teen
By KRISTEN GELINEAU
Associated Press Writer
September 30, 2005
RICHMOND, Va. -- Police seized a box of bones, a machete and sex toys from the apartment of a man questioned in the disappearance of a college student, according to a police search warrant.

A cutting of a box spring bearing a reddish-brown stain, a .32-caliber cartridge, chains and a pair of white panties were also taken from Ben Fawley's apartment during the police search, according to the warrant. Detectives entered the amateur photographer's home last week looking for items belonging to missing Virginia Commonwealth University freshman Taylor Behl.

Fawley, 38, was arraigned Monday on 16 counts of possession of child pornography and ordered held without bond. In an earlier search of his apartment, police took several computers and CDs.

Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Mike Jagels said authorities have found at least 30 videos on Fawley's computers depicting children as young as 1 in sexual acts. Neither Behl nor Fawley appear in any of the videos, Jagels said, and Fawley has not been charged in Behl's case.

Fawley's attorney, Chris Collins, did not immediately return a call seeking comment. He has said in the past that his client had nothing to do with Behl's disappearance.

The 17-year-old was last seen the evening of Sept. 5 when she left her dormitory room, taking only her cell phone, a small amount of cash, a student ID and her car keys. She told her roommate she would be back in a few hours.

The teen's car was found two weeks later, less than two miles from her dorm. Her license plates had been replaced with Ohio plates reported stolen several weeks before she disappeared.

According to Fawley's attorney, the photographer had a romantic relationship with the teen, and Jagels said the two had sex on several occasions. That could lead to a charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor, Jagels said, which was the basis of the warrant issued in last week's search.

Fawley was one of the last people to see Behl before she vanished. He told police he was beaten and abducted by several people a few hours after Behl disappeared.

Police had at one point classified Fawley a "person of interest" in the teen's disappearance. They now say they've dropped the label because he has already been questioned, but still consider him a part of the case. They have not identified any suspects.

According to the search warrant, authorities entered Fawley's home looking for a slew of items including Behl's key ring, cell phone and student ID, along with burglary tools, license plates and skateboards.

Among the more than 70 items collected from in and around Fawley's apartment were a hatchet and hammer, three cell phones, skateboards, documents and a pry bar.

Police spokeswoman Cynthia Price declined to comment on the items, citing the investigation.

"We're following up on the evidence that we have and seeing where it takes us," Price said.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-va--missingstudent0930sep30,0,7449576.story?coll=dp-headlines-virginia
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A vision sent me on the path of seeking justice for Chandra, nothing I've seen in print to date has diminished the vividness but only served to reaffirm the validity of this vision.

[Ruf]

When I first heard about this girl, there was information about a license plate reported, her real license plate i think it was. Well driving home from work the night before, I thought I seen this license plate on a white car. The jpc-2848 plate. It was the first three letters that caught my attention. I don't remember the state, but I though it was maryland. this car was driving about 5:20 pm going southbound on rt. 896

[rd]

It may very well have been MD plates. It looks like the 896 you're talking about is in MD. Taylor's license plate were Virginia plates. She's from Vienna, VA.

rd

[rd]

The latest from this lying creep is that Taylor wanted to commit a crime before she turned 18 so it wouldn't be on her record, so she wanted to steal a car.

I have a different take on this guy than I think is portrayed by some. He is universally described as weird and sort of out of it, almost like who knows what he will say weird.

But I think this guy is a very proactive liar, knowing what has happened and making up lies to alibi to explain it by other people doing what he did.

He stole a car, so he said Taylor said she was going to steal a car. Makes perfect sense to me.

Nothing weird about it at all. He just lies as good as Condit, of course, not good enough to pass a lie detector test though.

rd

[rd]

I just heard Ted Williams on Greta, caught the last part of it. The guy that was arrested for drugs when they searched his house, for some reason his car having been searched due to being linked to something the police found in Taylor's car, and a dog leading the police to his house from the car, that guy has also failed a lie detector test.

Not sure what's going on, but I truly believe that Fawley the photographer has set him up as the murderer. I don't think we have the details yet of how, but I'm sure he did.

rd