Justice for Chandra Levy and missing women
Joined: 13 Sep 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
|Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: Chapter 25. Woman Missing
available from Amazon.com:
Murder On A Horse Trail: The Disappearance of Chandra Levy
by Ralph Daugherty
Murder on a Horse Trail: The Disappearance of Chandra Levy also available free to read online here on www.justiceforchandra.com
"Woman missing in Modesto." With these words, www.justiceforchandra.com admin benn alerted us to yet another Modesto women who had disappeared, Laci Peterson.
Thus began thousands more posts on another missing woman even as we waited for a grand jury in Washington to start investigating Chandra's murder. We waited futilely.
Here is a post I made during those futile days:
What a time for my main posting computer to crash. I spent all night last night trying to replace the C: drive, get it to boot, etc., forgoing sleep as usual. I was falling asleep at traffic lights again today.
So it ended up being far worse than a hard disk crash, and I took the computer in to where I bought it. I'm thinking I can post without my research for at least a couple of days, and the only other thing I use the computer for is e-mail, mainly to get 20 spams for every e-mail from somebody I know, so I thought no big loss if I can't check e-mail for a couple of days.
Well, the computer had to go into the shop so I checked with the ISP and found I could read and reply to my e-mail through a web page just like Yahoo, Hotmail, and the others. Yahoo! I said, as I put my PC in the shop. Bring on the spam.
So I'm clunking through this kludgy web page interface for e-mail, and I see something about Chandra. It turns out to be a response from Chief Ward of USC, and I almost missed it buried in the spam. So I post the response and dive back into the spam.
Whoa, lo and behold, I am told DO NOT RESPOND. Well, that can't be spam, that's the exact opposite of spam. Strange. I look at the address. Mike Dayton. I'm thinking, don't I know a Mike Dayton from somewhere?
Wait. I just call the guy Dayton. I didn't even remember his first name. Mike Dayton sends me an e-mail but tells me not to respond. So of course I think spoofing. But I look the e-mail over and it's got a legitimate tone.
I would post the text of the e-mail to decide yourself because there is so much spoofing going on, but it isn't a polite thing to do and I usually don't. Other information could change my mind, of course, but the wording is legitimate and straight forward, and I'm confident it's him. Spoofing the e-mail address alone rules out trivial pranks.
Someone asked if he was married awhile back, but no information was posted on it. For the record, he says, he's been happily married for the last six years. He adds that my "false, defamatory, and malicious posts are being 'collected' by his attorneys. [plural, I guess he figures he'll need more than one].
Well, to be honest with you all, I think I'm the only one on the whole internet that thinks he's clueless about what happened to Chandra, and have said so all along. Because of that, it wasn't a concern to me what all has been said about him. I mean, if he's collecting names of people who have made mean and malicious remarks about him, he'll need a full time staff of lawyers!
Well, I stand by my posts over the last year. I think he thought he was helping Condit get rid of a link to a past mistress of Condit's, Joleen McKay, his "assignment" so to speak, while Lynch's assignment was Anne Marie Smith. To Condit, the question is, where's the watch? He didn't want anybody asking that, and now it's on the tip of everybody's tongue. I don't think he wanted Anne Marie to know he was calling from Luray that night either, but soon it will be on the tip of the public's tongue, as soon as it starts getting press.
I also hope I get my main posting computer back up again soon with data intact. I have backups but starting over and getting the backups into place and figuring out what I've lost is a major pain. This looks like a motherboard failure, but only a year after my last one. They just don't make PC's like they used to.
In the meantime, if I disappear, I'm as grouchy and distraught as ever, but mainly because my PC crashed, which tends to cause me to want to throw it in the river rather than myself.
Such as our posts went. The grand jury had tried to talk to Condit in April, after he lost his primary re-election and before Chandra was found. He didn't spend much time with them. They then talked to his Washington spokeman, Randy Groves, just before Chandra was found, and talked to his Modesto spokesman, Mike Lynch, a couple of weeks later.
Whatever the grand jury was seeking, they seemed sated. No one else heard from them through the summer and fall of 2002.
By December, the Levys made a trip to Washington. They talked to Greta Van Susteren about it:
VAN SUSTEREN: Mrs. Levy, you're here on business
here in Washington, right?
SUSAN LEVY: Yes, we are.
VAN SUSTEREN: And the business is?
SUSAN LEVY: To be at the grand jury.
VAN SUSTEREN: And also with us is Billy Martin, who
has been assisting you on this case. And of course,
Billy I've known for -- I shouldn't say 100 years,
Billy, but I sure have known you a long time. Billy,
what's going on in the investigation?
BILLY MARTIN, LEVY FAMILY ATTORNEY: Well, Greta,
we're pleased to learn that the investigation is
still very much an active and it's alive...
VAN SUSTEREN: You know, Mrs. Levy, I was very
disappointed in the police here. And Billy and I
have, you know, been in the criminal court system
together for years. But I was very disappointed that
it took a year to find your daughter's remains
because, you know, that's -- that search, that grid
search is not far from where I live.
SUSAN LEVY: It's unacceptable.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, you know, because there's so
many clues there. That's the problem. And as time
goes by, the clues -- do you share -- I mean...
SUSAN LEVY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Frankly, I'm scandalized.
SUSAN LEVY: Yes. I'm disappointed.
VAN SUSTEREN: Billy, why'd that happen? Why did they
-- why did they not find the remains for almost a
year? Because you know all the clues disappear over
time like that.
MARTIN: Yes. Greta, there -- every crime scene has
either DNA or other active ingredients that would
add to an investigation. We don't know why it took
so long. There were times when there were offers
from some of the search-and-rescue teams who go out
to some of the disasters across the world, who asked
to go into Rock Creek Park and help in the grid
And we were told that the grid search had been
completed. So you can imagine the pain and the
frustration on behalf of the Levys that we felt a
year later when Chandra was discovered, her remains
were found in an area that we had been led to
believe had been searched.
VAN SUSTEREN: And I'll one-up you, one, Dr. Levy, is
because after they searched the area where her
remains were found, they unsealed it. I went in
there, found a lot of suspicious items myself. I
mean, I -- you know, I walked the land myself with
two others. And then, of course, Billy had
investigators go in...
ROBERT LEVY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: ... and more remains were found. I
mean, how can you have a level of confidence in this
ROBERT LEVY: Well, it just was pretty tough. The way
they -- you know -- you know, it was just -- you
know, they weren't looking anymore.
They weren't looking in that area. You know, it was
just by fate that she was found. 
Joined: 13 Sep 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
|Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:05 am Post subject:
|No sooner did they return to Modesto than Laci disappeared, on Christmas Eve. Yet another family to share pain with right in their hometown. It was all too easy for a careful murderer to trust that any stray forensic evidence would be destroyed by the time a woman was found, if she ever was found. In this case, Laci's unborn baby Conner disappeared with her. Some think Chandra may have been pregnant when she disappeared, too.
By spring, two years had passed since Chandra disappeared. Michael Doyle of the Modesto Bee talked to Chandra's aunt and godparents about it:
Fran Iseman also wonders why a Washington-based
grand jury never called her to testify, though she
was close to Chandra Levy, who, with her parents,
spent her 24th birthday at the Isemans' place about
two weeks before the disappearance.
Levy's aunt, Linda (Zamsky) Katz, likewise said she
was not called to testify, even though she said
Chandra Levy confided in her about an affair with
then-Rep. Gary Condit of Ceres. Condit, defeated for
re-election last year, has stopped denying published
reports that he told police about the affair.
Charles Iseman said it is his fervent hope that the
Justice Department perseveres in the case.
"The cry for justice for Chandra screams out to the
heavens," Fran Iseman said. 
"When this first happened, we were all pretty
numb," said Linda Katz, Levy's aunt by marriage
formerly known as Linda Zamsky. "Now I'm angry, and
I'm frustrated that we haven't gotten any answers."
A grand jury has heard testimony about Ingmar
Guandique, now in prison for attacking two women in
Rock Creek Park, and investigators told The
Washington Post last month that they are interested
in several dozen sex offenders. But without any
indication of progress, Washington police employ a
rote description of the case. 
Where was the FBI that was supposed to have taken over the case long ago? Washington's NBC4 followed up with them:
The disappearance and murder of Chandra Levy remains
one of this area's most notorous mysteries.
In a News4 exclusive, the lead investigators speak
candidly about the case with Joe Krebs.
"It appears that she was on her computer early
afternoon of May 1, and then she logs off. Then
it's, of course, a year and three weeks later that
we find her remains in Rock Creek Park," recalled
FBI Agent Brad Garrett....
"In actuality, we don't know exactly what happened
to her, what precipitated her death," said Sgt. J.C.
In fact, they don't even know how she died.
"Well, we've been in constant contract with the
medical examiner's office and we're still attempting
to get the actual autopsy report from the medical
examiner's office," said Young.
"Is it someone she knew? Maybe. Is it someone she
didn't know? Maybe. It could go either way," said
Still, investigators insist, they are making
"The public's got to be patient because everything
doesn't happen overnight. Watching CSI and Homicide
these people believe that these crimes can be solved
in a day or so, and that doesn't happen," said
They need help from someone who knows something or
someone who saw something.
"Someone sees something happen on every crime scene,
believe it or not, and all they have to do is report
it," said Young.
"We will eventually solve this case at the end,
whatever the truth is, because there's been a lot of
speculation about what this case might be, and I
always like to bring the truth out, and we will at
the end," said Garrett. 
The FBI is working on Chandra's case, but they haven't got the autopsy report from the Medical Examiner's office after a year and a half?
The Levys had three renowned forensic specialists who weren't allowed to examine her body closely or look at the forensic evidence. The Levys couldn't even get their daughter back for a year for burial. And then, as a final nail in the coffin, Chandra's resting place for a year as her parents and their forensic experts anxiously sought access was described by Sewell Chan of the Washington Post:
Behind the walls of the District's morgue, even
death is put on hold.
Unclaimed bodies, awaiting public burial, have been
decomposing on fiberglass trays in refrigerated
storage rooms, some for up to three years. The cause
and manner of death for roughly 400 people who have
died since 1999 are "pending," the details of their
demise left unresolved. Paper case files -- the
morgue's records are not computerized -- are stored
in unlocked rooms where workers, visitors and
funeral directors wander freely. 
Chandra's body laid amongst this while the medical examiner refused to let the Levys get a professional opinion on her death, stress on professional. I suppose the Levys are lucky. They at least got Chandra back. Four hundred other families have been waiting years while their loved ones are decomposing. It is really too tragic for words.
Just as tragic is that two years after Chandra disappeared, police were still interested in investigating several dozen sex offenders. There are too many to investigate. We cannot continue to tolerate defense lawyers saying everyone is innocent because so many could be guilty.
Convicted felons should be monitored until they have completed probation. It makes no sense to think they don't. Until we put an electronic monitoring system in place, we will continue to lose innocent women to predators, predators that have already been caught time and again on lesser offenses and are on parole. These are the people that must be watched, not the entire population or children.
There are several technologies already in place and being used, if we can get to a point in our society of deciding which approach to use we will have achieved something great. If we use more than one of these technologies it has to be part of a unified national system is my only requirement.
The minimum requirement is that it records GPS locations of the person's whereabouts and is periodically uploaded to police. What this does is eliminate the anonymous roaming of the wolves to strike at will on a stray lamb without anyone knowing who could have done it. The GPS locations recorded will show who was at the location. GPS locations are accurate to a few yards.
The recording doesn't stop an abduction, but it ensures that we can tell who was there. If the device is removed or broken without coming in to a police station to report it, then that is the same as breaking out of jail. It means immediate return to incarceration.
If felons know that they cannot get away anonymously with a crime, then it changes their entire psychology. Sure, someone could go berserk, break the device and kill someone, but they know they will not get away with it. Now these felons think they will get away with it.
I say probation instead of life because the length of probation is based on the severity of crime. Registered sex offenders would be life, for example, as that is a type of permanent probation. But if someone had a five year probation and didn't commit another crime, then we need to focus our attention on those who are committing crimes.
www.justiceforchandra.com admin jane posted these statistics on GPS monitoring from Heather Hayes of fcw.com:
When a convict with a 10-year history of abusing and
stalking his ex-wife made parole in Scott County,
Minn., last year, the only thing between him and his
victim was an inconspicuous bracelet prison
officials had attached to his ankle. He paid it no
mind and headed straight for his ex-wife.
But before he came within five miles of her,
corrections officers were all over him.
That was the last time that convict underestimated
his high-tech ankle gear.
Police now can keep tabs on criminals like this one
by using Global Positioning System (GPS) satellites,
the same technology the military uses to target bomb
sites and the U.S. Justice Department uses to zero
in on drug traffickers....
In Florida, offenders monitored by GPS have not
committed a single felony while on parole. By
contrast, 27 percent of offenders tracked with
traditional electronic monitoring commit felonies
within 18 months. And nationally, 30 percent of all
crimes are committed by people under community
In Fresno County, for example, probationers who once
paid $7 to $10 a day for the electronic ankle
bracelet system now pay up to $16 a day for GPS
monitoring. If the convicts were to remain in jail,
the state and county could pay as much as $75 a day
for adults and $100 a day for juveniles. 
The criminals, drug addicts, sex predators, wolves roaming to strike, have stolen goodness from our live's story and replaced it with fear. We need to drop them in cages in the desert, and replace our fear with their fear. Drop food in. Give them a treadmill, although they don't deserve to be treated as well as hamsters.
Women are dead basically because we don't have enough cages for these thugs. Our message to the legal system should be, catch all you want, we'll build more cages.
Pipe sea water into the desert and convert it to fresh water, put solar arrays on top of the cages to shade and power the cages. Who cares if someone gnaws through a bar, the dogs need a workout occasionally anyway.
Once out of their cages, I think Homeland Security has to include monitoring sex offenders and people on parole. They will strike like wolves at a lamb any chance they get. It's either the wolves or the lambs that need constant monitoring, we have to make a choice.
Maybe a little girl's impending death caught on tape will do it. Something must move us to act. Surely we cannot wait for the wolves to strike aqain.
In closing, why pursue the logic to recreate what happened in those last days of Chandra's life? Because some people care about Chandra and what happened to her, and what happened wasn't determined by the police investigation. The FBI is waiting for someone to drop a dime. Maybe the information here will enable someone to connect some dots and make a call. Maybe it won't. But we cared.
I hope Chandra is able to know how many good people put so much effort into helping find her. The good people will move on, but none will forget the disappearance of Chandra Levy.
Joined: 13 Sep 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
|Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:11 am Post subject:
Looking down at the hollow below the tree where Chandra was found. - James Forrester
Murder on a Horse Trail - Table of Contents
1. Levy, Robert and Susan. Interview with Greta Van Susteren. On the Record.
Fox News. 12 Dec. 2002. Transcript.
2. Doyle, Michael. “Levy’s remains to be returned to Modesto, godparents say.”
Modesto Bee 22 May 2003.
3. Doyle, Michael. “No new developments in investigation into slaying.”
Modesto Bee 18 May 2003.
4. “Unsolved Cases: Chandra Levy Investigation.” NBC4.com 6 Nov. 2003.
5. Chan, Sewell. “Morgue Again Takes Turn for Worse.” Washington Post 27
6. Hayes, Heather. “The Long Arm of the Law.” http://www.fcw.com 6 Dec. 1999.
Lengel, Allan and Sari Horwitz. “Grand Jury Hearing From Condit’s Aides:
More Levy Bones Identified As Lipstick Is Also Found.” Washington Post 12
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