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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:59 am    Post subject: Personal locators Reply with quote

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Walmart is going to start selling personal locators. That may not be the solution to stopping so many people from going missing, but it does not seem like it will hurt anything either.

There is no one solution to preventing this type of crime, but more attention should be given to prevention. Looking for the missing person after they are missing is sort of too little too late. It would be interesting to see any percentages on how many people go missing and how many are found alive. Of course there are people who go missing because they want to move or do something different and do not tell anyone where they are going or what they are going to be doing, but that is only one type of missing person.

Anyway, here is the Walmart news and other information:

http://www.wherifywireless.com/news/pressrelease/2005.01.05.pdf

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have started another topic having to do with looking at missing persons cases from all angles, prevention, statistics, solutions, localities, and anything else.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<i>Walmart is going to start selling personal locators. That may not be the solution to stopping so many people from going missing, but it does not seem like it will hurt anything either.
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It is ridiculous in that the locator will be removed or broken by the assailant. I will say for the last time put the locators on the damn felons. If they remove it, they go back to jail.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rd, I may give more response to this later, but I am certainly not advocating that everyone, men and women, should be wearing locators. But Walmart must be thinking something of the idea. Yes someone could pull the locator off of the wearer, but the locator can also send out a message, and the location can be tracked in one minute. That should keep an attacker jumping because the police could be in that location also in a short time. Mr. attacker better think fast. If all women wore one the attacker would first have to find the locator. It might look like a radio, a bracelet, a cell phone. Which one is the attacker going to throw away? There would not be any muggers mugging joggers for their cell phones. This gets better as it goes along. I think the new ones look more like a cell phone, and they can be worn in different places.

I have not read about anyone being saved by one of these locators yet, but I have not read anything about one being taken off of someone who was wearing one. Anyway when I bring this subjecf up it livens up the board because I know there will be some response, from one person at least. :)

>> put the locators on the damn felons.If they remove it, they go back to jail.<<

I have not kept up on that entirely, but I think some paroled felons are wearing them now. Your plan does not take into consideration that all men attacking women are not paroled felons. Some have never been charged with that, like possibly the young hispanic man, or men, mentioned on this topic.

One type of plan alone is not going to stop these lone wolf type of attacks and murders. Another plan I think would help is to stop charging the attackers with murder. Oh they could be charged with that, it would not hurt anything, but they should definitely be charged with kidnapping. Of course this is a play on words, but that is the way the courts seem to operate. In the 1930s, at the time of the Lindberg baby kidnapping, any type of kidnapping was taken very seriously.

There was a Federal Kidnapping law passed. I think it was the Lindberg Law, and California also had a California Lindberg Law. I don't know what happened to the enforcement of those laws because the punishment was death. 600 men on death row in San Quentin Prison now in California, and very few of them will probably ever be executed.

Actually the death sentence is not a death sentence, we all die, the death sentence just shortens the life of the convicted kidnapper murderer the same as he has shortened the life of his victim. I don't think the Lindberg Laws required that the victim be murdered, only kidnapped.

The last vigilante hanging in the United States that I know of was in San Jose, California in 1932 where two young men were hanged because they had kidnapped and murdered a local man who was well known. I heard KGO talk show host Ray Taliaferro talking on his program one night about this hanging. KGO probably still has the program on tapes.

Locators will help stop paroled felons from attacking again, but not all attackers are paroled felons. Executing them stops them all if given a chance, paroled felons and non paroled felons.

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Here is sort of a technical article where locators are used in rescue operations in a man overboard emergency on the water.

>>http://www.oceanblue.com/seamarshall/sm_faq.html

Frequently Asked Questions

What is a locally managed marine rescue?
The Sea Marshall® System is a Man Over Board Emergency Response System. The system gives immediate warning of an MOB (Man Over Board) to either the vessel from which the person fell, or to local area watch stations that are within range of the signal transmitted from the Man Over Board. The rescuers can then home directly to the person in distress. The term locally managed refers to the ability of the Sea Marshall® system users to manage and carry out their own rescue operation, calling upon the back up of the SAR authorities if necessary. The system is fully compatible with standard International Search And Rescue Equipment, such that outside help can be called upon if the situation requires it.

What the Sea Marshall Rescue System (SMRS) is� NOT!
The SMRS is NOT an EPIRB. The SMRS is NOT a 406 PLB. The SMRS is not a 121.5 EPIRB or a 121.5 ELT. All of these systems are based on a transmitter (Beacon) signaling a satellite(s) (takes 45-90 minutes depending on location) and then alerting a call center, who then alerts the nearest ground station for SAR effort.

The Sea Marshall Rescue System is not a global alerting system. The SMRS when used in a MOB situation will not trigger the COSPAS SARASAT Satellites.

What is a Personal Locator Beacon or PLB?
Marine Rescue Technologies and the marine industry have described the Sea Marshall® transmitters as Personal Locator Beacons (PLB's) for several years. In most countries worldwide the Sea Marshall brand continues to be marketed under the name of PLB or PLB8.

In the United States (& Canada) the nomenclature Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) has been dedicated for use under the newly approved for land use 406 PLB. In the United States and Canada the Sea Marshall brand has been approved (Navy, USCG, & FCC) under the name Sea Marshall Rescue System or SMRS. The SMRS is also known in the USA as the Sea Marshall® ELB 'Emergency Locator Beacon'.

Why Would you use a Sea Marshall® ELB or T? instead of a 406 PLB?
A Sea Marshall® ELB is designed for the purpose of immediate alerting and recovery of a Man Over Board, even if the MOB has been rendered unconscious...by a blow to the head perhaps. A Sea Marshall ELB is fully automatic were as a 406 PLB is not. In the event of any kind of Man Over board incident it is crucial that the missing person is firstly detected as missing and then located and recovered from the water in the fastest time possible. A 406 PLB relies on satellite ground stations which may be many thousands of miles away to pinpoint and co-ordinate the rescue. A 406 PLB will take some time to provoke a response. Could be about 30 minutes minimum to relay its signal transmission to a satellite and on to a ground station, the ground station will then have the task of organizing the SAR operation. This delay is not useful in a MOB incident that necessitates an immediate solution to an immediate problem, in real time. Time is of the essence when a person accidentally goes into the water, time is the difference between life and death. A Sea Marshall ELB will activate almost immediately once a person has gone into the water letting the crew quickly react to the situation organizing their own rescue operation to recover their missing crew member. A Sea Marshall ELB transmits on 121.5 MHz, which is the internationally recognized Search And Rescue Homing Frequency.

Definitely, the 406 PLB is a better solution for land-based persons lost or in trouble that do not need an immediate response within seconds or minutes. The 406 PLB alerts satellite and geosatellites for near exact location coordinates. If the 406 PLB is to be used for a marine application you would have to evaluate whether the man over board (MOB) can be rescued after a 45 to 90 minute delay in the start of a SAR.


How is a SAR system done and at what distances is the SMRS effective?
An RAF Nimrod aircraft can visually search approximately 1800 square miles in 8 hours. (area bordered by red line) When a 'Man Overboard' situation occurs, if they are wearing a Distress Beacon, that same aircraft can search approximately 384,000 miles. (area bordered by blue line) The benefits are plain to see. If you find yourself overboard and lost at sea, you are far more likely to be found and with more speed by wearing a Personal Locator Beacon - PLB.

"So far I have had a 100% success rate in testing these Personal Locator Beacons. I am convinced that a helicopter could search 200 square miles in 20 minutes or less, for a diver wearing a PLB. For a lost diver not wearing a PLB, this search would take hours!" - Coastguard

A PERSONAL PLB TRANSMITTING ON 121.5MHz, THE WORLDWIDE EMERGENCY DISTRESS HOMING FREQUENCY, CAN BE PINPOINTED BY ANY AIRCRAFT OR SEA GOING VESSEL EQUIPPED WITH SUITABLE DIRECTION FINDING EQUIPMENT.

Why is the Sea Marshall ELB Antenna more effective?
Once the Sea Marshall® beacon is activated, either manually or automatically, the unique Sea Marshall® antenna configuration radiates an exceptionally strong and clear signal, even in the worst-case scenarios (individual unconscious, face down, arms in or under the water) giving excellent range for the rescuers to home in from. The unique rope antenna gives approximately one meter of highly visible light source for the final visual recovery.

How does the Sea Marshall PLB handle false alarms?
False alarms are prevented by an ingenious, water sensitive, timing circuit. The PLB is able to withstand volumes of splash water without automatically deploying. The unit must be totally submerged for 15 seconds to activate automatically.

Why is the conventional rigid (helical) antenna less effective?
The traditional use of a semi rigid helical antenna design carries with it the problem of optimum signal radiation being achieved only when the antenna is maintained in the upright position and away from the body; this has the side effect of creating a signal radiation pattern that may activate any passing satellite. Once the antenna moves away from the vertical and also if the unit is worn close to the body then the signal radiation pattern becomes distorted with the high possibility of shadow, low signal, sectors being created around the individual; an important issue when rescuers are homing into a target.

What are the physiological effects of Hypothermia?
The Physiological Effects Of Immersion are often overlooked; in cold water hypothermia develops very quickly, the majority of those entering water without immersion suits will die within one hour. Initial Immersion, the first two or three minutes. The danger here arises from the initial 'cold shock' responses to cold-water immersion. Survivors will experience a sudden fall in skin temperature, decreased breath holding ability, muscle spasms and many hyperventilate. During this time it is unlikely that any person will be capable of any operation requiring a high degree of manual dexterity, such as operating a distress transponder of any type or holding their arms in the air for any length of time.
Why would a man devote his life to developing a man overboard system that works?
David Marshall's lifelong quest to invent safety beacons for people in distress at sea who might otherwise be lost goes back to his own experience in 1961 where he himself endured a man overboard situation in shark infested waters for several hours off New Caledonia in the South Pacific Ocean.

Tipped into the sea during a sudden squall from a small yacht whilst on R & R from the mother ship anchored off shore the unpleasant experience of disorientation and helplessness made a lasting impression. Due to the low horizon and surface spray it was impossible to know where to swim to with the knowledge that any surface activity may sound the dinner gong for the local sharks.

Only by the chance of a passing barge that had spotted the small upturned sailboat was David rescued somewhat traumatized and grateful. David's interest in sea safety began even before he was lost overboard, - when his father Lt. Cmdr. Don Marshall was listed as missing aboard a vessel torpedoed in the Second World War ending up as a P.O.W.

Why was an electro luminescent light used versus a standard beacon light?
The electro luminescent technology is a common technology for lighting of instrumentation, especially in military and aviation. The technology is clearly visible at night and requires very little power. In addition standard lighting will distort or confuse night vision equipment that is used by aviation, emergency response and the military. The electro-luminescent technology does not affect or distort night vision equipment.

Finally, the electro luminescent light cord provides a useful visual aid to the final, close range, recovery of a person from the water, which will not dazzle the rescuers.

Would I require a single channel or dual channel receiver?
A single channel receiver comes with a 121,5 MHz receiving capability only. 121,5 MHz transmitters (Single band) are (United States) allowed to be tested for a 5 second transmission on the hour and between :00 and .05 or for up to 5 minutes. In most European countries testing is done only on a 121.65 MHz frequency (second or dual band frequency), which is dedicated for testing that can be used for extended periods of time (sea trials). Confirm your needs and check with local authorities.

How would Sea Marshall equipment be used to protect oil and gas workers on a Jetty?
MRT have commissioned an extensive Sea Marshall® MOB system on the 2 mile long jetty at the Texaco Pembroke refinery.

Texaco's objective was to create a system which continuously monitors the jetty 2 mile long) and waters around the jetty for any sign of one of their operating crews accidentally going into the water.

The crews working the pier were "kitted" out with the Intrinsically safe version of the Sea Marshall® PLB, known as the ISPLB8 (or SMRS-IS). Five monitoring stations were set up along the jetty at regular intervals. The monitoring equipment fitted at each station is made up of a Crewguard receiver linked into an auto-dialer, all housed in a small stainless steel cabinet, which is in turn linked into the main emergency number for the refinery. The receivers all have externally mounted antennas to provide greater range and all had their own power supply in the event of any form of power failure.

When the Sea Marshall transmitter is activated one of the Crewguard receivers recognizes the signal and activates its auto-dialers. In turn this will ring the dedicated emergency phone at the front gate security office and play a pre-recorded message outlining the nature of the situation and the number of the Berth at which the signal was picked up. This information will then be relayed to the rescue crews who can move to that location. A rigid inflatable rescue boat is on permanent standby to recover a man from the water, this craft was also outfitted with a Crewfinder direction finder unit to allow the rescue crew to track and locate an MOB wearing a PLB. The system runs perfectly and serves as a template for a safety standard for all other similar Texaco applications installations.

Sea Marshall® is a Registered Trade Mark of Marine Rescue Technologies Ltd . All Rights Reserved

Also known as a Sea Marshall Emergency Locator Transmitters, ELT Personal Locator Beacons, PLB8, PIRBs or Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon Direction Finder.

Marine rescues or DF Man Over Board, MOB, Man Over Board Indicating Systems, MOBI Search And Rescue, SAR Maritime Survivor Locating Devices, MSLD Maritime Survivor Locating Systems, MSLS Portable Direction Finder Emergency Location Beacons.

Sea Marshall Rescue Systems Man Over Board Indicating Emergency Response Systems.<<<

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an argument that wristwatch personal locators, or other similar personal locators, can be easily taken off of the child or person wearing the locator. Here is a photo, taken from this article, showing a boy wearing a locator wristwatch.
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As high-profile kidnappings put the nation's parents on edge, new GPS-based 'personal locator devices' provide eyes in the sky when it matters most

All the rage: panic buttons for preschoolers
By Rick Mathieson


child wearing watch with GPS capabilities
One of several companies offering GPS-enabled location devices designed to increase a parent's peace of mind, Wherify Wireless recently begain shipping its Personal Locator for Children (shown above).

Trisha Hernandez was unglued - and confronted with the possibility of every parent's worst nightmare.

This last July, a day of fun for her 3-year old daughter Sara, and Hernandez's estranged husband, had gone awry. They weren't where they were supposed be, and they hadn't check in for hours. With each passing moment, Hernandez grew increasingly concerned.

"I kept thinking about the whole custody situation, when he had made comments that he wanted to take her away from me," she says from her Riverside, Calif. home. "Now I was wondering, 'where are you going with my daughter?'"

But while Sara was suddenly gone, she was never truly missing - thanks to some cutting-edge mobile technology. Faced with contentious custody negotiations, Hernandez had taken up an offer to beta-test a new generation of wireless devices designed to keep track of kids' locations 24 hours a day.

Using GPS-based technologies, these devices identify their locations relative to up to 24 satellites orbiting 12,000 miles above the Earth. With a few keystrokes and a Web browser, Hernandez got an aerial view of a map showing Sara's location.

"When I was able to reach my ex-husband by cell phone, it turned out he just wanted to take Sara to the beach," says Hernandez. "It was reassuring to know that even when she was off with him, I could know exactly where she was."

Indeed, in an age of Amber Alerts and a seemingly endless stream of news stories on child abductions, a growing number of anxious parents are taking a closer look at new "personal locater devices" to keep extra eyes on their kids when they can't.

"There's been so much news about tragic kidnappings across the nation, from Utah to California to everywhere else," says Mathew Cossolotto, spokesperson for South St. Paul-based Digital Angel, one of a handful of companies starting to sell locator devices in the form of wristwatches and pagers.

"Nothing can take the place of vigilance and awareness and parents supervising their kids," he says. "But if something does go wrong, these devices provide a fall-back system that could save somebody's life."

Childhood's end

Every year, there are as many as 114,600 attempted abductions of children by non-family members. And every 42 seconds, a child is reported missing - amounting to 438,200 children lost or otherwise unaccounted for every year, according to a recent study by the U.S. Department of Justice.

Personal locator devices like Digital Angel use GPS and public cellular networks to establish the device's location within 1 to 30 meters, and then send the information to call centers, where it can be routed to parents through the Internet, telephone, PDA or pager.

Locator implants get under your skin

One of the major concerns over the viability of GPS-based personal locator devices is the fact that kidnappers can forcibly remove them.

"They're so easily removable, and locking them could just make a bad situation worse," says Joe Laszlo, senior analyst for research firm Jupiter.

True, but at least police would be able to identify a child's last known location, say experts. Nonetheless, it leads to an obvious question: Why not just implant the devices under the skin where predators can't find them?

"We believe there is no market for implantable GPS technologies for children," says Bob Stern, director of corporate communications for Wherify Wireless. "The technology for that is a long way off, and who's going to want to implant one into their child?"

You might, says Matthew Cossolotto, a spokesperson for Digital Angel Corp., adding that the technology is already here.

Applied Digital Solutions, a wholly owned subsidiary of Digital Angel Corporation, is developing an implantable personal location device that will start the prototype stage by Christmas.

"It's as small as a grain of rice," says Cossolotto. "No one will ever know it's there."

Applied already is marketing the Verichip, which gained media attention earlier this year. Verichip is an implantable medical identification device that could someday also be used for financial transactions.

Once a prototype of the new device is complete, the company can approach the FDA for approval, though that could take years.

Still, what about the ethics of being able to track someone without their ability to remove their digital leash?

"'Tracking' is a misnomer,'" he says. "It's 'locating.' It's not like some Big Brother thing where the government watches you in the supermarket. That'd be boring, and the battery power you'd need would be enormous. We're talking about limited use of locating someone in the case of an emergency."

We're not sure if euphemisms are going to make anyone feel any better about the devices.



"Parents get peace of mind knowing that they can locate their kids from anywhere, anytime" says Bob Stern, director of corporate communications for Redwood Shores, Calif.-based Wherify Wireless, which just started shipping orders of its Personal Locator for Children this month.

Prices for such devices start around $400 for the unit, and anywhere from $24.99 to $49.99 per month for service.

Wherify's product comes in the form of a wristwatch in a choice of "Galactic Blue" or "Cosmic Purple," while Digital Angel is currently a combination of wristwatch and pager - though a single-unit device should be ready by Christmas.

"You can't get a GPS system for your car for less than $500 these days, and the monthly fee is in line with what you pay for cable, Internet, or cell phone," explains Stern. "You can't put a price tag on peace of mind, but we think these devices offer a lot of value for the dollar."

The companies are currently working on incorporating the device in anklets, pendants and other form factors. And a new product from Dallas, TX-based GPSTracks will reportedly come in the form of a clip that can be attached to clothing like a Star Trek-style lapel communicator.

In GPSTracks' case, the company won't act as a mediator, so parents will get mapping and location information directly from the system through the Web, or their choice wireless devices, for about $10 to $15 per month.

Kid tested, mother approved

In addition to monitoring a child's location on a GPS-rendered map via the Web, a major benefit of personal locators is the ability for parents to receive alerts when children stray from designated geographic boundaries.

"We call this 'geo-fencing, which allows you to pre-set a geographic area - inside of which all is fine, outside of which an alert is triggered," says Cossolotto.

Parents can also set time-based alerts to notify them if their child has not arrived at a scheduled location, say soccer practice or piano lessons.

The devices also come with built-in pagers and special "panic buttons" that allow the wearer to initiate a 911 emergency response via the provider's call center.

Some of the devices are even kid-proof. In the case of Wherify, parents can lock the watch on kids' wrists using a key fob, or unlock the watch remotely from a Web page. If the device's rubberized wristband is tampered with, or removed, parents are automatically notified.

"It's so nice to know that I can be at work and know if my daughter's where she's supposed to be - or if she's not," says Hernandez, who works as an administrative assistant for Digital Angel.

Of course, the GPS technologies behind all this have been around for some time, used for everything from LoJack on automobiles, to personal navigation devices, to chips that track pets and livestock.

This new generation of personal locators simply extends the concept to new markets, in this case such segments as parents of children 4- to 12-years old, and caretakers of elderly Alzheimer patients who might wander away from home.

By some estimates, it's a savvy move: Sales of locator devices for all uses are expected to skyrocket from a projected $4.7 billion in 2004 to over $40 billion by 2006, according to estimates from the Strategis Group.

"I think it's one of the best investments I've ever made," says Hernandez.

Still, not everyone is convinced a large number of other parents will agree.

Panic boom?

"I think we'll see more and more wireless services aimed at kids, but I don't think it will be the tracking model that takes off," says Joe Laszlo, a senior analyst for research firm Jupiter. "There are some problems inherent in the technology that may mean it's not a solution for allaying every parent's fear."

For starters, GPS can't track people indoors.

"It's not going to work well if your kid strays away from you at the mall," says Laszlo. "Even 'enhanced' GPS won't see through steel or concrete buildings."

Instead, he sees more success for point solutions aimed at a limited geographic location, such as Disneyland, which is readying a device that lets family members keep track of one another while they're in the park, while also receiving information about rides, attractions, and restaurants.

Meanwhile, the technology could actually put kids in danger, says Laszlo. While both Wherify and Digital Angel boast password-protected security measures, "providers have to be extremely cautious that only parents have access to Web-based interfaces that show kids' locations," he says. "If unauthorized users were somehow able to get that information, there could be a serious problem."

And with paging, panic buttons, geo-fencing and so much more, parents are more likely to choose less complex solutions for keeping track of kids.

"The more functionality you layer on any given device, the more people start to ask how much does this cost versus how much more of a secure feeling is it going to give me," he says. "There are better, less expensive ways to accomplish the same things."

With the prices on cell phones coming down, it would be far cheaper just to give children their own phones. And with federally mandated e911 standards required in all new cell phones by 2005, an already-handy device will also provide GPS-style locator functionality in the case of an emergency.

Indeed, though they say interest is high, Wherify and Digital Angel have only sold a few thousand units so far. And German cell phone manufacturer Siemens recently canceled plans for a Wherify-style tracking device called Leonie because of low interest in Europe.

"Wireless operators are just focusing on other types of services right now," says spokesperson Angelika Boettcher.

But for her part, Trisha Hernandez will hear none of it.

"It's kind of like jumper cables," she says. "You don't really think about them, but the moment you need them, you're glad they're there."

And she cites a case in point: At a recent event benefiting children's organizations, Hernandez ran into the mother of Danielle van Dam, the 7-year old who was abducted last summer from her San Diego, Calif. home and found murdered in the nearby desert.

"She said that had she known these devices were out there, she would have gotten one," says Hernandez. "Now she's getting them for her other children."

Pausing a moment to think about this, as well as her own experience last summer, she adds, "If that's not a solid enough indication of what these devices can mean to parents, I don't know what is."


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a panic button, that wouldn't "locate" unless the panic button was pressed, is very useful for everyone. The constant GPS monitoring is appropriate for a child where a parent could check where the child was (or rather, where the locator is).

For an adult woman however, who would be checking her whereabouts? This is where the personal locators on the rest of us instead of the violent felons is ridiculous.

As a panic button, however, that is what I proposed more than two years ago and said it should be supplied free of charge to women. That and tracking felons on probation would end crime against women and children as we know it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to be work to be done on personal locators and panic buttons. Maybe a compromise by the manufacturers some where. The price is pretty steep right now, especially if there is more than one locator in the family.

Close monitoring does not seem to be necessary at all times, maybe only once every five minutes. Maybe not at all unless the panic button was pushed.

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The panic button need to be built in to cell phones - 911 with GPS location is pretty close. The cost is for our country to install GPS location equipment at all the 911 call centers.

We spend an extraordinary amount of money on ineffective investigations and even more ineffective prisons. Putting in the infrastructure to identify GPS locations of cell phone calls and record GPS locations of violent ex-felons would solve ineffective investigations.

A bunch of cheap cells of a different sort in a desert would solve the cost of prisons. And we will need a lot them if we monitor felon's movements. But that's the whole point, isn't it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire, errr the U.S. Empire. One of our country's biggest products is entertainment, and that does not solve anything.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: locators? Reply with quote

I agree with you rd. Here in Lubbock (where Joanna Rogers and Jennifer Wilkerson are missing from) there is a plan for a sex free offender neighborhood. In order to live in this neighborhood you have to pass a background check. This is for adults and juveniles planning to live there. If you choose to sell your home then you have to agree to do the same background check on potential buyers. I don't know exactly how they will get away with this, but I can see thier point. Except that in doing so the sex offenders will be preying on lower income families. I think that sex offenders should all have to live in their own neighborhood as well as wear tracking devices. I want my children to be just as safe as the 'upper class' families. You can go to www.lubbockonline.com and search for the june 6,2005 paper for the whole story.
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