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Another missing woman/girl-Joanna Rogers, 16, of Lubbock, TX
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think it takes someone familiar with the area to choose a well to hide their murder victim. Not that they have to spent much time on the property, but I think they'd in general have to be pretty familiar with it, for example knowing where the well is and that it's abandoned, etc.

It's sad when bodies are found and it just adds to the crimes to be solved.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or they'd have to either:

1) just had the body in the car and been driving, saw the abandoned buildings, and happened to notice the cistern next to one while getting ready to dump the body; or,

2) went scouting ahead of time, for abandoned buildings, found one with a cistern, and so....; or

3) There's not a lot out there, and it's about an hour and a half away from Lubbock, so, who knows? The news report seems to indicate that someone involved in another investigation ponied up the information. And that the body had been there for a while. I guess it could have been one of RR's earlier victims, if he's a serial. Or, it could be just some other poor schmuck whom someone decided to finish off.


They did say it was a small framed individual. I guess the skeleton will go to Dallas and they'll try to figure out who that poor soul is, as well.

How very sad. For them, and for their family.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nan wrote:

They did say it was a small framed individual. I guess the skeleton will go to Dallas and they'll try to figure out who that poor soul is, as well.



The remains were sent to Lubbock. According to the sheriff of Kent Co., it is not Jo or Jen, and they do have a suspect. He states they do have more information, which he cannot reveal, yet leaves the impression that they know the who and whys already. The Lubbock sheriff's department is being more typically vague, leaving the door open for speculation and the possibility that it may be one of the girls.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, hopefully they can get this girl home to her family, and will contact that family soon.

I was unaware they had that much information - assumed they'd send her bones to Dallas for DNA as they did the male found outside of town. Makes one wonder how they got the information. I read one place online that a phone tip provided the info. I read another place online that it was from an ongoing investigation. Hard to know what's accurate, since the stories tend to vary a bit from news media entity to entity.

I looked on the NCMEC website and didn't see any missing girls from Abilene. I also looked on another "missing" website and ~thought~ I saw two young women missing from Abilene, but from many years ago. (It was late last night when I was looking, so I could be mistaken.) Whomever she is, and wherever she's from, she deserves better than being left in the bottom of a well without a name.

Thankfully, also, the press alerted the Rogers family when the remains were found.

Also, I found another woman listed as missing (from 98?) from Lubbock on one of the websites. I'll have to go back and check to see where I saw that - am wondering if there has been anything (search, etc.) done for her, or if she's just "missing" and forgotten?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: so many missing, for so long Reply with quote

I should know better than to do this, but searching the Texas DPS website brought up these women as missing (within a few hours' drive of Lubbock) - not including Joanna:


Name: Jennifer Lynn Wilkerson
AKA: Jen
Case Number: M0407012
Case Type: Endangered
Last Seen in: Lubbock (Lubbock County)
Last Seen on: 7/13/2004
Height: 5' 5 "
Weight: 110 lbs.
Age Missing: 26
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 12/9/1977
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Wilkerson was last seen
wearing a red halter top, blue capri pants
and black flip-flops. She has a tattoo of
the word "Taken" on the back of her neck,
a tattoo of the word "Rotten" and a butterfly
on her back, a tattoo of roses on her right
wrist, a tattoo of a fish on her stomach, a
tattoo around her left leg and she has a lip ring in.


Name: Sheryl Kay Griffith
AKA: Kay Kay
Case Number: M0302004
Case Type: Disabled - Endangered
Last Seen in: Abilene (Jones County)
Last Seen on: 3/18/2002
Height: 5' 1 "
Weight: 120 lbs.
Age Missing: 32
Eye Color: Hazel
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 3/8/1971
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Griffith was last seen wearing
a black and red long sleeved flannel shirt and black
pants. She has a scar on her left wrist, left arm,
right wrist, right arm, and on her abdomen.
Ms. Griffith has shown suicidal tendencies in the past.


Name: Brandy Gay Noble
AKA: BG, Boo-Boo, Little Brandy
Case Number: M0408006
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Amarillo (Potter County)
Last Seen on: 4/1/2002
Height: 5' 4 "
Weight: 100 lbs.
Age Missing: 16
Eye Color: Hazel
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 8/26/1986
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Dental is available for comparison.


Name: Monica Lynn Appleton
AKA: Monica Larua, Monica Lynn Larua
Case Number: M0001001
Case Type: Endangered
Last Seen in: Pampa (Gray County)
Last Seen on: 10/13/1999
Height: 5' 5 "
Weight: 111 lbs.
Age Missing: 29
Eye Color: Hazel
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 5/21/1970
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Appleton may be in the
company of Ivory Tealer, AKA: "T" or "T-Baby".


Name: Jennifer Shawn Vagher
AKA: Jennifer Tillery, Jennifer Lasater
Case Number: M0308007
Case Type: Other
Last Seen in: Lubbock (Lubbock County)
Last Seen on: 10/1/1998
Height: 5' 3 "
Weight: 140 lbs.
Age Missing: 18
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 11/3/1979
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Unknown


Name: Julie Lisa Wilkinson
Case Number: M9808009
Case Type: Disabled - Endangered
Last Seen in: Amarillo (Potter County)
Last Seen on: 5/6/1998
Height: 5' 8 "
Weight: 145 lbs.
Age Missing: 37
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 10/10/1960
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Wilkinson wears glasses.
She has a knot on one side of her collarbone
from a previous bone breakage and wears a
silver saddle ring on her left hand, ring finger.


Name: Ana Bell Luvaul Juarez
Case Number: M9707010
Case Type: Endangered
Last Seen in: Odessa (Ector County)
Last Seen on: 1/27/1997
Height: 5' 1 "
Weight: 105 lbs.
Age Missing: 29
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 7/21/1967
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Juarez has an appendectomy
scar. She was last seen wearing a white western
shirt, blue jeans and gray boots.

Name: Jordan Marie Loucks
AKA: Wendy Lou Niziol
Case Number: M9806006
Case Type: Endangered
Last Seen in: Odessa (Ector County)
Last Seen on: 1/6/1996
Height: 5' 5 "
Weight: 120 lbs.
Age Missing: 29
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 4/16/1966
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Loucks was operating a 1984
Lincoln, 4-door, black in color, bearing unknown
license tags and VIN 1LNBP96F4EY643556. A suitcase
containing items belonging to Jordan was found
in a remote area of Big Bend National Park.

Name: Jolee Baker
AKA: Jo Baker, Jeler Baker, Jamie Merayo
Case Number: M9609002
Case Type: Disabled
Last Seen in: Wichita Falls (Wichita County)
Last Seen on: 8/6/1995
Height: 5' 5 "
Weight: 100 lbs.
Age Missing: 25
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 8/19/1969
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Baker has a heart-shaped
tattoo with the name "Tony" on her abdomen.

Name: Stephane Shae Henderson
AKA: Stephane Meeks
Case Number: M9408008
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Levelland (Hockley County)
Last Seen on: 11/28/1993
Height: 5' 8 "
Weight: 156 lbs.
Age Missing: 21
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 9/13/1972
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Henderson has a tattoo of
an S between her thumb and forefinger, and
scars on her left thigh, right hip, and lower abdomen.


Name: Judie Lowery Munguia
Case Number: M0104001
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Odessa (Ector County)
Last Seen on: 5/28/1981
Height: 5' 3 "
Weight: 150 lbs.
Age Missing: 32
Eye Color: Hazel
Hair Color: Black
Date of Birth: 12/30/1948
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Munguia has a scar on her
left leg between her knee and ankle. Ms.
Munguia was last seen aroung 1 a.m. when
she left her home to visit a friend in Oklahoma
City, Oklahoma. Ms. Munguia's vehicle was found
abondoned at the Will Rogers World Airport in
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma on November 14, 1981.
It was determined that her vehicle had been
in the parking lot for a minumum of eighty days.

Name: Dorothy Jean Richardson
AKA: D.J. Richardson, Dorothy Howard
Case Number: M8605002
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Abilene (Jones-Taylor County)
Last Seen on: 6/30/1981
Height: 5' 3 "
Weight: 115 lbs.
Age Missing: 21
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 6/2/1960
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Unknown


Name: Kristy Lynne Booth
Case Number: M8809003
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Midland (Midland County)
Last Seen on: 2/2/1980
Height: 5' 8 "
Weight: 120 lbs.
Age Missing: 19
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 12/26/1960
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Booth has pierced ears and a
birthmark on the right side of her stomach. She
was last seen wearing a white, button-down blouse,
pink vest and blue jeans. Ms. Booth was not wearing
shoes when she disappeared. Her 1975 maroon and white
AMC Pacer was found abandoned approximately 2 miles
south of IH-20 on SH 349 (Rankin Highway).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: TV coverage for Joanna Reply with quote

The FBI and CBS TV contacted the Rogers family to let them know that Joanna will be profiled on "Without a Trace" on January 19th (tomorrow). They are also making efforts to have Joanna profiled in the CBS Early Show on the 20th, but that is not a done deal yet. The "Without a Trace" website is http://www.cbs.com/primetime/without_a_trace and the show airs at 10:00pm ET/PT and 9:00pm Central Time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an interview with Joanna's mother from this morning's (1/20/06) the CBS Early Show at the following link.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/20/earlyshow/main1224633.shtml

Click on the "interview" link for a video feed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a flurry of publicity for Joanna's case, Nan. Did you get to see either one of these?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not see the "Without a Trace" episode (nodded off in my chair) but there is a link on the "Morning Show" page that has the video feed, so I saw that one. Kathy did an excellent job - lucid, straight answers, a good interview. The interviewer asked solid questions and was appropriately empathetic. I think it's the best publicity Joanna's had so far. I believe the FBI was behind this. Bless them.

Odd how none of it was mentioned in the local press [online] on Friday. The Maury show they mentioned. Neither of these were. Hopefully they did some on-air promos so that people in the area would watch.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is marvelous that FINALLY Joanna and Jennifer are getting some media coverage. One wonders had not Summer been murdered or several bodies found if this indeed would be happening? It is obvious that there are many people missing that have been murdered, and it seems that the public is awakening to this reality. Perhaps finally the resources will be allocated to solve many of the missing persons cases and homicides in the Lubbock area, as well as many many others who are missing in Texas and throughout America.

Whether or not this information should be gaged, the police perhaps know better in this regard, after all we do not know what they know. It is well known that the police do not give out information, however, at least the Rogers are being kept in the loop, whether or not Jennifer's family is being kept in the same loop, one can only hope.

I've been busy of late researching what became of Maura Murray in New Hampshire, and the Murray family (Fred Murray, Maura's Father) has had to resort to suing Law Enforcement in order to obtain minimal information in Maura's disappearance.

There is a fine line I suppose in revealing information in regards to an on going police investigation however, where the family is completely kept outside the loop of police investigation needs to be examined, not only do the family have rights to information, the public must be kept informed as well, it is a dicotomy. What seems necessary is a court of public enquiry or common law, where law enforcement can be challenged in the families and an individuals right to be informed about on going police investigations, and as well law enforcements handling of an investigation can be analyzed, so that law enforcements actions and accountability are not above the law.

In Canada we have a court of Public enquiry, where any individual, has the right to seek out information and performance of governments and their agencies. Not only can individuals have access to this court but agencies of the government. This kind of court is essential that corruption and inadequencies of government becopme known and that theses agencies act within the bounds and confinds of the law.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, too, that the local press has dropped any media coverage like a hot rock.

There's been nothing about the "CBS Morning Show" or "Without a Trace" coverage in any of the online media from there - nothing since just after the "Nancy Grace Show" and the subsequent gag order on the people directly involved in the investigation. My guesses: people didn't like what they heard on the Nancy Grace Show (and not about Joanna); or, the media has been given an unofficial message to drop it by the powers that be there. Probably a bit of both.

Heard a rumor on Summer Baldwin's case, that his lawyer wants off the case because he's having disagreements's with Rodriguez's father. Had expected to see that in the local press there today as well, but I guess the whole subject is now taboo. Also guess daddy doesn't like hearing what the lawyer is telling him. Like forget about trying to prove him innocent, just pray he doesn't get the death penalty. Or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nan wrote:

Heard a rumor on Summer Baldwin's case, that his lawyer wants off the case because he's having disagreements's with Rodriguez's father. Had expected to see that in the local press there today as well, but I guess the whole subject is now taboo. Also guess daddy doesn't like hearing what the lawyer is telling him. Like forget about trying to prove him innocent, just pray he doesn't get the death penalty. Or something.


According to the Lubbock news, the lawyer wants out because he isn't getting paid.

The Kent county sheriff says that the body in the well is not either Jen or Joanna. They have not released the identity, but say that it is a female from Abilene, Tx.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I hope that helps some family, TJ. Not sure if she will end up being one the many missing women listed here, but here's hoping finding her answers some questions.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=4454105

They just released the information concerning her identity.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's her name. I'll see if she was listed here.

rd

from www.kbcd.com

The bones belong to a missing woman out of Abilene named Sheryl Kay Griffith. Griffith was 31 years old at the time of her disappearance in March of 2002.


yep, Nan listed her earlier in this thread:

Name: Sheryl Kay Griffith
AKA: Kay Kay
Case Number: M0302004
Case Type: Disabled - Endangered
Last Seen in: Abilene (Jones County)
Last Seen on: 3/18/2002
Height: 5' 1 "
Weight: 120 lbs.
Age Missing: 32
Eye Color: Hazel
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 3/8/1971
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Griffith was last seen wearing
a black and red long sleeved flannel shirt and black
pants. She has a scar on her left wrist, left arm,
right wrist, right arm, and on her abdomen.
Ms. Griffith has shown suicidal tendencies in the past.
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