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The Chandra Levy Disappearance and Murder: Two Years Now (1)
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benn



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rd wrote:
I'd like to know why no one else was questioned by the grand jury after Condit pleaded the 5th. Reminds me of tapping SP's phone and not talking to all the locals who called in. It's like, we'll just see what the suspect says and then we're done. What kind of investigation is that?

rd


rd, that is why we need some legal advice. There must be some free legal counsel someplace, and I am just thinking there is. A free counsel would be much better that a paid counself anyway. A paid councel would not be logical, and a free counsel would not be trapped and could leave any time he wanted to.

I remember once I was fired from a job, and it was really a good job to be leaving, but I did not want to lose any unemployment benefits until I could find another job, so I started looking around for legal advice to make sure the company could not say they fired me with just cause.

Somewhere I found some law students who did free legal couseling. I forget how i contacted them, but they assigned me to a young woman law student, and I phoned the law student, or she phoned me. I was going to have a meeting with my former employer, and his attorney, and the volunteer law student said she could go with me to the meeting. But I decided I did not want to get the volunteer law student all wrapped up with my little problem, so I told her I would talk to my employer without counsel. But he had his attorney. I received my unemployment insurance without any penalty, and found another job.

My only point here, after so many words, is that out there somewhere there must be a band of law students who would be willing and able to help us find out why the police investigation is bogged down. Law students have to learn, and that is the way they get practice.

I still have to edit my letter to go to Paul and Linda Katz, then I will post it at Contacts.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote from NewsMax

Tuesday Aug. 25, 2003; 12:29 p.m. EDT

Bustamante Team Includes Key Gary Condit Advisor

A key aide to former Congressman Gary Condit is now a top advisor to Democratic recall candidate, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante.

Richard Ross has worked for a number of prominent Democrats in California. But he first gained national attention during the Condit-Chandra Levy scandal, spinning week after week's worth of damaging revelations in a bid to save the California Democrat's career.

On Monday Ross found himself returning to the role he played for Condit for much of 2001 and 2002.

But this time the ace damage controller was trying to deflect questions about dubious fundraising practices employed by Bustamante's campaign, which has accepted $4 million in large sums from a handful of special-interest donors, including several California Indian tribes with ties to the casino industry.

Ross said Bustamante was taking advantage of a loophole that was entirely legal. ''We're abiding by [the campaign finance law] the way they wrote it,'' he told the San Jose Mercury News. ''If they want to change it, they need to change it.''

Ross' joining the Bustamante campaign may also be evidence of Condit's hidden hand in California politics.

Condit even considered running himself in the recall election -- but decided not to do so. If he had entered, Condit would have had a revenge motive against Gray Davis.

Davis and Condit had been very close, and Davis credited his first win for governor with Condit's endorsement and support.

Both of Davis children worked on Davis' Sacramento staff. And both quit during the Levy scandal -- when Davis betrayed his friendship with Condit and openly criticized the embattled Congressman.

Now Davis has to fear his fellow Democrats as the election closes in.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interssting. I don't recall Richard Ross's name in any of the articles at the time. I did a search and came up with these references:

Washington Times Oct. 21, 2001
"Mr. Condit's political consultant, Richie Ross, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment."


UPI Oct. 3, 2001
" LOS ANGELES -- Rep. Gary Condit, D-Calif., appears to again be testing the waters in advance of a possible re-election campaign, despite the redrawing of his district's boundaries and the controversy over his relationship with missing intern Chandra Levy.
Condit's political consultant, Richard Ross, told the Los Angeles Times Condit this week began collecting signatures on a petition that would place him on the March 5 Democratic primary ballot.

And although California law would allow Condit to secure a spot on the ballot for a modest fee of $1,451, Ross told the Times Condit preferred to collect the necessary 3,000 signatures.

"Gary has always prided himself...on (qualifying) on the strength of petitions that are gathered by friends, neighbors and door-to-door," Ross told the Times, adding a schedule that includes public appearances by Condit would "evolve over the next month.""


LKL Aug. 31, 2001
"GERAGOS: Well, you sure hope so. You sure hope that initially that this thing would have been handled in such a way where there would have been a media strategy that was markedly different from this. But at the same time, there is a disconnect here. If this guy is so calculating, and if this is all done for his political career, and if it was so easy to just, as Chad said the other night, take the advice of the people who were telling him, whether it was Richie Ross or anybody else, come out and do a mea culpa, or to say the kind of formula words that Barbara and Nancy want him to say, and that would have ended that."

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This is in addition to the pollster Don Langman, whose son Chip worked for Condit before he quit and went back to California in the heat of Chandra's disappearance.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of possibly voting for Bustamante, but now I think I will scratch that idea off. The politicians all have their old cronies, and the old cronies are much more important to the politicians than the voters.

"Both of Davis children worked on Davis' Sacramento staff. And both quit during the Levy scandal -- when Davis betrayed his friendship with Condit and openly criticized the embattled Congressman."

That quote above from Newsmax is sort of stupid also. "Davis betrayed his friendship with Condit --" How could Davis possibly have betrayed Condit when Condit had already betrayed himself,

So as usual there is no one worth voting for on the ballot, with the possible exception of Schwartneggar.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post, maggie.

Are we starting to get some drip. Drip, drip...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benn on the previous page, you quoted both of Davis children worked and quit, did you mean Condit's children?

Reading the articles about Richie Ross brings to mind Mr. Rich on the chandra forums, hummm???? Wonder if there one in the same?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kate - I noticed that, too. The error is in the article (I checked). Apparently the author intended to say Condit's children.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fallout wrote:
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Anyway, as far as I can see there is almost zero media interest and even less law enforcement effort.


you are right james, but I don't care if they are interested or not, if I can get someone on the hot seat. I think the Condit episode is going to start coming out just like the Kennedy assassination kept growing. Condit needs another day in the sun. Everyone deserves their just due, and he is overdue. Of course he can get up on the witness stand and refute whatever is said.

kate and jane

Yes, that was a boo boo in the article about Davis's children, but I should have caught it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maggie, Richie Ross tried his darndest to get Condit to answer specific questions that showed he wasn't involved in her disappearance, and he warned Condit as stated above that that was the only way that Condit would survive politically, and still Condit refused to do it. In my opinion, he knew he couldn't answer those questions and thus he rejected all his highly paid advice and wrote his own letter. It was widely condemned along and his re-election went downhill from there. I preferred that he get re-elected so that the pressure to account for himself would continue and intensify, rather than just go away because he preferred to lose his Congressional seat rather than answer questions.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked on getting this site registered into Yahoo and Netscape internet directories so that Google would pick them up. I submitted the link a few weeks ago, and of course to Google as well. I checked back with Netscape directory tonight, and we are not listed yet. Maybe it's because they need an editor for the Chandra Levy section, I suppose. Anyway, here's the link, and the statement that a category editor is needed is at the bottom of the page:

http://www.dmoz.org/Society/People/Missing_People/Personals/Levy,_Chandra/

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just applied as editor for the Chandra Levy section!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems to be one of the formulas: " "cooperate with police and not speak publicly."

Just let the police do your coverup work for you.

Do the police really need all of that secrecy?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing for sure, maggie, Condit rejected his advice, and for that matter all his advisors except his children, Chad and Cadee. For some reason only he and his family decided that he couldn't answer questions about Chandra. I think there's a good reason for that. His advisors assumed he could explain himself, but Condit knows he can't.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, jane! It's a fairly large section compared to the other categories, the wouldn't be able to find a better person for the job.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, rd!
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