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The Chandra Levy Disappearance and Murder: Two Years Now (1)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:00 pm    Post subject: The Chandra Levy Disappearance and Murder: Two Years Now (1) Reply with quote

quote from New York Post

TRAGIC PARALLELS IN SENSELESS SLAYINGS

By NILES LATHEM

April 27, 2003 -- WASHINGTON - The day police found Laci Peterson's body would have been Chandra Levy's 26th birthday.
While there is no connection between the two high-profile female murder victims - other than they both lived in the California town of Modesto - the coincidence made Monday, April 14, a tough day for Chandra's mother, Susan.

The media maelstrom over the recovery of Laci's body revived all of Levy's painful memories of two years ago this week when Chandra went missing after completing an internship in Washington.

When Susan Levy heard that Laci's body had been found washed up on the shores of San Francisco Bay, she went to the nearby Stanislaus County courthouse to bang an Indian drum. It was a vigil "for all the people whose heartbeats have been stopped" by abduction and murder, she said last week.

And yesterday, Levy toted an 11-by-17 portrait of her daughter at a vigil in Modesto for victims of violent crime. "I hurt along with Laci's family," she said.

While there might be some closure ahead for Laci's family - Scott Peterson has been charged with the murders of his wife and unborn son - the Levy family remains anguished that two years after their daughter disappeared, cops are no closer to finding her killer.

"Every day you get up in the morning and face the reality that our family has been fragmented. There's always emptiness and pain," Levy told The Post.

But on the other side of the country, where Chandra's skeletal remains were discovered in a remote section of D.C.'s Rock Creek Park - a year and 22 days after she was last seen on April 30, the investigation is at a standstill.

Last October there was a flurry of activity as police shifted their suspicion away from Chandra's onetime boyfriend, ex-Rep. Gary Condit, to 21-year-old Salvadoran immigrant Ingmar Guandique, who is doing jail time for two similar assaults on joggers in the same area two months after Levy went missing.

But despite hauling Guandique's relatives, landlord and girlfriend before the Chandra grand jury, sources say the interest in Guandique as a suspect in Levy's murder has diminished.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


photo credit and caption: Susan Levy, right, holds of a photo of her murdered daugther, Chandra, during a march and rally for victims of violent crimes, held in the wake of the Laci Peterson murder, in Modesto, Calif., Saturday, April 26, 2003. (AP Photo/Marcio Sanchez)

Susan Levy, being an artist (sculptor), is a very creative and sensitive person. Imagine her banging a drum at the Stanislaus courthouse after Laci's and Connor's remains were found (to represent the heartbeats stopped by murder).

I feel kind of worried about her - she's acting a little odd - but then, she's said she's always been offbeat and a free spirit.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote from Modesto Bee

Ex-Condit chief of staff cancels talk

By JEFF JARDINE
BEE STAFF WRITER


Published: April 26, 2003, 05:16:38 AM PDT

Mike Lynch, former Rep. Gary Condit's longtime chief of staff, canceled plans to speak at a conference today in Modesto after the media were given permission to attend.
Lynch now is a private consultant. He was scheduled to tell a group of police public information officers what it was like to be caught in the middle of a media frenzy.

The public information officers are here as part of the four-day International Association of Chiefs of Police conference, set to conclude Sunday morning at Modesto Centre Plaza.

For more than two months in the summer of 2001, Lynch took the brunt of media demands as reporters focused on the Ceres congressman's relationship with missing intern Chandra Levy, a Modesto woman who vanished in Washington, D.C., after completing an internship at the Bureau of Prisons.

Levy's remains were found last year in a Washington park. Police do not consider Condit a suspect in the case. He has never denied reports that he had a relationship with the 24-year-old Levy.

The media were allowed to cover all but two sessions of the police chiefs conference: Lynch's and a panel involving families of crime victims. The Bee asked to attend his presentation.

Lynch then canceled. He said he did not want his speech reported anywhere, possibly stirring up the issue at a time when the city again is experiencing national media attention -- this time because of the Laci Peterson homicide case.

"I thought I could give these guys (officers) an idea of what it's like to be in the middle of a media frenzy," he said. "I'm not interested in doing that now."

He informed Modesto police Detective Doug Ridenour, the department's information officer and the event's local coordinator, of his decision Friday afternoon.

Bill Cheek, a representative of the international association, said the group generally allows guest speakers to determine whether they want their sessions open to the media.

The Modesto Police Department, along with the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department, is co-hosting the event for the international association.

The Police Department played a significant role in organizing the event, providing staff and budgeting $3,500 toward it, while the Sheriff's Department contributed $400 and some staff time, according to officials of those departments.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

>>> "I thought I could give these guys (officers) an idea of what it's like to be in the middle of a media frenzy," he said. "I'm not interested in doing that now." <<<


this makes no sense at all ... if he really wanted to educate the police around such stuff as heavy duty media attention, it seems to me that he'd welcome press coverage that could serve nicely to illustrate his points. something is rotten in denmark here, and methinks it's that world class enabler, gary condit's hand picked mouthpiece, mike lynch.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jane quoted from the New York Post.

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Last October there was a flurry of activity as police shifted their suspicion away from Chandra's onetime boyfriend, ex-Rep. Gary Condit, to 21-year-old Salvadoran immigrant Ingmar Guandique, who is doing jail time for two similar assaults on joggers in the same area two months after Levy went missing.

But despite hauling Guandique's relatives, landlord and girlfriend before the Chandra grand jury, sources say the interest in Guandique as a suspect in Levy's murder has diminished.


I have searched for Guandique's name at legalcasedocs.com but did not get any hits. However on their home page, on the right hand side of the page, they say:

>>>"Looking for a case that's
not in our archives?
Let us know about it . . .

Suggest the Case "<<<

I clicked on the "Suggest the Case link, and came up with the following:

>>>"Case Request Please fill out the following form to suggest a case for our archives. We are always interested in expanding the variety and scope of our database to better benefit our customers.
Personal Information

<<<"Name: (required)
Email: (required)
Address: (required)
Address Line 2: (optional)
City: (required)
Zip: (required)
State: (required)

>>>Case Information (please provide as much information as possible)

>>>Plaintiff:
Defendant:
Date Case Filed:
Location (State or City):
Court:
Case Number:
Case Description:<<<

There does not seem to be any fee for suggesting a case. No fee is mentioned.

I do not think that Ingmar Guandique had anything to do with Chandra. I also don't know if he actually had any recorded court cases, but it probably would not hurt to know too much about Guandique than not enough. There are always Condit detractors who are going to bring up Guandique's name, or some other possible suspect's name, to detract from finding more actual information about Chandra's disappearance.

rd I put this in here so you could make a decision on whether to ask for any court cases involving Guandique. Any replies from legalcasedocs.com would go directly to you anyway. It looks like it does not cost anything to request a case.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

propria wrote:
>>> "I thought I could give these guys (officers) an idea of what it's like to be in the middle of a media frenzy," he said. "I'm not interested in doing that now." <<<


this makes no sense at all ... if he really wanted to educate the police around such stuff as heavy duty media attention, it seems to me that he'd welcome press coverage that could serve nicely to illustrate his points. something is rotten in denmark here, and methinks it's that world class enabler, gary condit's hand picked mouthpiece, mike lynch.


nanci


nanci and jane

There is no media frenzy here. There is only Mike Lynch trying to avoid questioning about Chandra.

That is the reason I think the Stanislaus County and the Modesto Police Department should get involved in the Chandra Levy murder investigation. Mike Lynch is close to the local grand dury, and the local grand jury should have him in and question him. The Stanislaus County grand jury might have different questions to ask him than the Washington grand jury did.

The Laci Peterson case, and the Chandra Levy case, are different because the Modesto Police could not help look for Chandra's murderer.

Mike Lynch should be made more public, rather than less public. If he does not like the heat he can try to get out of the kitchen.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>>> The Laci Peterson case, and the Chandra Levy case, are different because the Modesto Police could not help look for Chandra's murderer.

Mike Lynch should be made more public, rather than less public. If he does not like the heat he can try to get out of the kitchen. <<<



bingo, benn ...

on both points ... in fact, if you take a step or two back and you expand your reference to lynch so that it includes everyone in the conditista crowd, you have just summed up the entire levy case in a couple of sentences.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can give the FBI one tip right now about the Levy case, take a genetics test to see who the father of Jennifer Thomas's son is.

A test could prove 100% that Congressman Condit is not the father, or it could prove with an accuracy of about 99.5% that he is the father.

About two weeks before Chandra disappeared the story about Jennifer Thomas comes up, in the Levy family. Two weeks later Chandra disappears.

The FBI has said that Otis Thomas lied, but why would he have lied? Regardless of whether or not he lied there is no evidence in a court of law to show that he lied. Is there still a coverup going on here? Maybe this is a good point to bring up with the tabloids, the tabloids seem fearless, when everyone else runs the other way.

I thought in times past I have read here, or on Where's Chandra, that rd said that he had sent letters to the FBI. Maybe I am wrong here, I don't want to spead any false information.

If you did send letters to the FBI rd, how does someone send a letter to the FBI about this case, and did you ever mention Jennifer Thomas to the FBI?

Also, does anyone here think that Jennifer Thomas would be a good subject to mention to the tabloids? How about mentioning Chandra's key to Condit's apartment to the tabloids. The American Media seems to own most of the tabloids.

maggie quoted THE WASHINGTON TIMES:

Quote:
Chief Ramsey said a detective remains assigned to the case, though not exclusively. He also said tips have pretty much "dried up," but he hopes that the second anniversary of Miss Levy's disappearance will generate a renewed interest and jog someone's memory.
"It's going to take someone calling us up with information they thought was insignificant at the time," Chief Ramsey said. "We continue to be optimistic that we'll get the tip we need."


Is the Thomas Jennifer story insignificant, and was the Otis Thomas story really disproved?

"Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country."

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benn, I went to the FBI web site and posted a lead at a place they provide on their site. It was basically a list of questions including questions about Jennifer Thomas and the paternity of her child. I of course heard nothing back. We now know they were actively covering up for Congressman Condit, and still are. Only public enlightenment on the facts will change that. That's all these DC scumbags have ever responded to.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rd

I think you are 100% right about the coverup. I will bet that the Modesto police could do a paternity test real fast if they had authority to do so.

I put Jennifer Thomas into google this morning and saw most of, maybe all, of the hits were for 2001. Then I switched the search over to Groups, for the news groups. The first hit, right at the top, had your name on it. It was to alt.true-crime in 2001.

Yeah. they made Otis Thomas recant, but we don't know who is telling the truth now. I don't think they know either. I might try looking up the FBI site.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an idea. We might start emailing, or writing, the politicians. Politicians get shook up real fast sometimes, if they think public opinion might swing against them.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're right, benn ...

politicians do get antsy if they think public opinion is turning on them, but i suspect it takes a huge number of letters to get them to see an opinion as being that of the public ... i think it's a great idea to write to our representatives, especially those who were in the house of representatives while condit was hiding in the cloakroom, but i'm not sure our little group can light a big enough fire to smoke out the truth about what happened to chandra. as much as i hate to admit it, i suspect our best shot really will be the tabloid press, and i'll spare us all my moaning and groaning over the sad, sorry state of affairs we're in when supermarket trash is all we have to rely on for courageous politically incorrect reporting. i think i'll take on hassling john ashcroft's office about the implications of leaving this file open when there is a congressional connection in the picture, just for the fun of it even if it doesn't get us anywhere. i'd encourage everyone here to pick up the phone, send an email and drop a note in the mailbox to both their representatives and the tabloids ... sure, it might not make a bit of difference at all, but at least we'll go to sleep knowing we did our rock bottom level best on chandra's behalf.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rd wrote, We now know they [the FBI] were actively covering up for Congressman Condit, and still are.

I agree - the FBI and other authorities are covering up. What clinches it, for me, is that they don't want any experts outside their realm taking a close look at Chandra's remains.

Somehow, though, I don't think they're protecting Condit's rear end. If so, they've failed pretty badly, haven't they? His reputation and his career (other than his new one of suing any deep pockets he and his fancy lawyer can think of) are mud.

Chandra is like the tip of the iceberg - she's the barely visible marker of a hidden mass that the authorities don't want anyone to know anything about, IMO.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right on, nanci

I have been writing to my politicians for years, and I sort of feel it is like taking a bucket of water and tossing it into the ocean. The ocean still looks the same after I pour the bucket of water into the ocean.

I remember once though many years back that I wrote a letter to the editor and owner of a chain of newspapers, and my topic was his running of ads for pornographic, or semi-pornographic businesses while at the same time writing against the type of business that they were engaged in. It is sort of hard now for me to go back and remember all of the details. Anyway, if I remember right this Editor had been editorializing against some of the more sexually outrageous businesses around town, and this city had them.

Well, I received an answer by mail from the Editor and owner of the newspaper, and he said that he was going to stop running ads for the businesses that were engaging in the type of activity that he had been writing against.

And he did. The paper stopped running ads for nude theaters and bars etc., for a while. But the newspaper had some joint businesse arrangements with another newspaper in town. The two newspapers shared printing presses, even though they expoused different viewpoints. The other paper was not going to stop printing the ads for the nude type businesses, and the two papers together printed a joint Sunday edition.

So it ended up in a short time that the newspaper that had quit printing some ads for sexually oriented type of businesses had to start printing the ads again because of the business arrangements between the two main newspapers in the city. The editor and owner of the paper I had written to had tried to put his views into practice, but the way of the big city had
made him toe the mark and print the ads that he had decided not to print.

Did my letter to the editor make any difference in his original decision to quit printing ads for some sexually explicit businesses? I don't think that my letter made any difference, it just expressed an opinion whose time had arrived. Maybe there were a lot of other people writing to the newspaper and saying the same things that I had said. The big city prevailed, and those of us who wanted to get rid of some of the big city values lost.

So I wrote about one page of thoughts to the FBI website today, about Jennifer Thomas and Otis Thomas and dna testing etc. I took my bucket of water and dumped it into the ocean. If the FBI does take any action it might well be against me, or anyone expressing ideas that a Congressman might be a suspect. The FBI is going to pick on the guys that can't afford the lawyers, not on the Condits or the OJs.

They say though that every letter to a Congressman, or to a newspaper, or to any officials in government, represents a certain number of people who have the same views but who don't put them into writing. So politicians do get unelected as well as elected. I could go on here, but this is too long already. As with my full page letter to the FBI, I could have said the same thing in a couple of sentences.

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After 2 Years, Clues Still Being Sought in Levy Case
Police Focus on Several Dozen Sex Offenders


By Allan Lengel
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 1, 2003; Page B01

Investigators in the Chandra Levy homicide case are continuing to look into the possibility that she was killed by a sexual predator in Rock Creek Park and are focusing on a few dozen sex offenders, including some in prison, law enforcement sources said.

Today, exactly two years after the 24-year-old vanished, investigators are still seeking clues. They have eliminated "several dozen" predators as potential suspects but still have plenty more on a list of offenders who were in the Washington area on May 1, 2001, including Ingmar Guandique, who was convicted of attacking two joggers in the park, the sources said.

"We still don't have any breaks in the case, but it's being worked," said D.C. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, who declined to discuss specifics. "It's going to take a break. Eventually, we'll get a break. You never give up."

Levy's parents, Robert and Susan Levy, still hold out hope of an arrest in a case that once commanded international attention. The Levys live in Modesto, Calif., and Susan Levy said she "felt the cosmic connection" to another highly publicized case: the slaying of Laci Peterson, 27, the substitute teacher who vanished from her Modesto home in December.

Both Chandra Levy and Laci Peterson were vibrant, attractive young women who mysteriously disappeared. Peterson's body was found in San Francisco Bay on April 14, what would have been Levy's 26th birthday. Peterson's husband has been charged with murder.

"What happened to Laci Peterson has hit me very, very, very hard . . . especially when it was on my daughter's birthday that they found her," Susan Levy said in an interview.

Chandra Levy vanished shortly after completing an internship with the U.S. Bureau of Prisons in Washington and just before she planned to move back to Modesto.

The last confirmed sighting of Levy came April 30, 2001, the night she canceled her membership at a gym on Connecticut Avenue NW, several blocks from her apartment.

Levy's skeletal remains were found May 22, 2002, in Rock Creek Park in a hilly, heavily wooded area along Broad Branch Road NW. Her leggings were knotted at the bottom of both ends, leading some authorities to suspect that she may have been restrained and sexually assaulted.

The case attracted international attention after revelations that Levy was having an affair with then-Rep. Gary A. Condit (D-Calif.), who represented her home town. From the start, Condit denied involvement in her disappearance, and authorities have said they have no evidence otherwise.

Sources said authorities remain interested in Guandique, 21, who is serving a 10-year federal prison term for attacking two female joggers at knifepoint in Rock Creek Park within weeks after Levy disappeared. Both joggers escaped unharmed.

Guandique and his lawyer have said he had nothing to do with Levy's death.

"There is no evidence linking Mr. Guandique to Ms. Levy's death," Julia Leighton, general counsel for the D.C. Public Defender Service, said in a written statement.

"The only relationship between Mr. Guandique and the Levy case are periodic quotes from law enforcement sources to the press that coincide with lulls in law enforcement's investigation."

Authorities also are taking a second look at Albert W. Cook Jr., 26, who is serving a life sentence in the Jan. 24, 2001, killing of jogger Sue Wen Stottmeister in the Montgomery County section of Rock Creek Park, sources said. But he is much lower on the list of people authorities are checking, they said.

Law enforcement sources said investigators are not focusing on Condit as a suspect. Authorities interviewed him four times in 2001, subpoenaed his bank, phone and credit card records, took a DNA sample and searched his Adams Morgan condominium, which he has since sold.

In the past year, a grand jury working on the case subpoenaed Condit and some of his former and then-current staff members. The grand jury also subpoenaed relatives and friends of Guandique. Susan and Robert Levy testified before the grand jury, providing insights about their daughter.

Condit, 55, chose to exercise his right not to appear before the panel. The grand jury has investigated allegations that he obstructed justice in the probe. He has denied any wrongdoing, and sources said it is unlikely Condit will face charges of obstruction unless he is somehow tied to Levy's death.

Condit lost his reelection bid last year after seven terms in Congress. He is temporarily living in Scottsdale, Ariz., with his wife, Carolyn, trying to chart his future, said his attorney, L. Lin Wood of Atlanta. "He's using this time to sort out what he's going to do with the rest of his life. He's a young man. He's got to find a way to make a living," Wood said, adding that Condit was unfairly harmed by publicity.

"Unlike some former Washington politicians, he has not been offered some cushy state job or lobbying position," Wood said.

Condit and his wife have three multimillion-dollar libel lawsuits pending against tabloids and a magazine columnist.

Susan Levy, who at one time accused Condit of withholding potentially valuable information from investigators, declined to talk about him in the recent interview.

But she had plenty to say about the Laci Peterson case. She attended a prayer vigil for Peterson's family and hugged the parents. Before the body was found, she said, she helped search for Peterson on horseback near a reservoir.

She said cases such as Peterson's slaying have made the healing process even harder for her.

"Every time you hear another family loss like that, it's like having a sore and it rips off the band-aid and it never heals," she said.

Staff researcher Bobbye Pratt contributed to this report.

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