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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:06 am    Post subject: Secrets Reply with quote

Ditto, Rd. In addition, the defense was denied discovery and the judge put a gag order on the trial participants.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully grounds for a successful appeal. I don't know if any further appeal actions will make the news but anyone else would be freed based on the DNA evidence of another man found on her clothing.

Heck, the Innocence Project doesn't even need to have a DNA test done. That Guandique is innocent anywhere but DC should be obvious. Similar to a southern lynching.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed that the DNA found on her clothing must have been matched to an evidence technician because they talked about evidence being contaminated although I don't remember specifically reading this. If that DNA remains unidentified then I agree it should be grounds for appeal.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That DNA did not match that of any on record; however, it seems that not all of the handlers had DNA tests on record, so it is left unresolved.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the DC prosecutors even said that. Why wouldn't people handling FBI evidence have their DNA on file? They don't even want to go there.

No, they claim it's contamination, but why wouldn't every prosecutor claim it for every conviction overturned? It's what they do. Heck, they fight the DNA test tooth and nail.

They have no interest in truth and justice whatsoever. They care more about their conviction rate or lookng bad.

It was grounds to find Guandique not proven guilty, and now grounds for overturn on appeal just like every other overturned conviction that isn't an illegal immigrant scapegoat for a murdered Washington intern.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I was referring to, rd:
excerpt:
    Chandra Levy trial testimony focuses on unexplained DNA

    By Matthew Barakat
    Associated Press
    Posted: 11/03/2010 02:19:30 PM PDT
    Updated: 11/03/2010 03:05:53 PM PDT

    WASHINGTON -- Testimony at the Chandra Levy murder trial focused Wednesday on DNA from fewer than a dozen skin cells that were found on the murdered intern's running tights and came from an unknown male....

    Amy Jeanguenat, a DNA analyst at Bode Technology labs, which conducted the testing, said the male DNA was tested against profiles for Levy, Condit and Guandique and matched none of them. It was also tested against a limited library of FBI technicians who handled the evidence before it arrived at Bode, and still no match was found. But not all the people who handled the evidence from the FBI were in that database.

    Jeanguenat said Bode technicians are skeptical that the DNA came from Levy's attacker because they could not even find Levy's DNA on any of the clothing....

    http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_16514230?nclick_check=1

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Jane, that's pretty shocking. That the FBI does not have a record of the DNA for all technicians doing testing boggles my mind and reduces my confidence in the investigatory prowess of the organization. That's like not being able to match fingerprints to investigators. Ridiculous. Appeal!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Identity of DNA Testers Reply with quote

I think that the FBI DOES have a match for all DNA testers on file. This is BS. How stupid do they think members of the American public are?

Also, weren't they testing for "secondary" contamination this time? And could the results point at "primary" DNA? And could the "primary DNA" belong to whomever placed Chandra's body in Rock Creek Park? I don't know, myself. Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice the "limited" database. That is probably something like Bode technicians testing for their group of Bode employees. They apparently weren't allowed to run it against the entire FBI DNA database, and the FBI refuses to do so.

I don't see how the FBI DNA database could be called "limited". So this is clearly manipulating evidence and manipulating the jury. They are afraid to find out the DNA isn't in their database and thus couldn't be one of the people handling it.

I guess it's called an appeal but between that and the lies told about Guandique's passing the lie detector test like every other Spanish speaking inmate has been given, and able to be determined failed as the first "cellmate confession" inmate did, and by the way no one ever said Morales was given one, which is also manipulation of evidence, and this DNA evidence manipulation, which by the way should strain the credibility of any non-rigged jury in that everything the DC police did was claimed to be the height of incompetence EXCEPT processing the remains scene which was claimed to expertly done despite testimony from the man who found Chandra's skull and the reporting from Greta and Ted Williams EXCEPT DNA found on Chandra's tights MUST have been contamination and has nothing to do with the murderer because the prosecution says so but refuses to test to confirm who contaminated it or that the DNA is from someone not in the DNA database, that is someone not handling the evidence who could have contaminated it.

Whether you call it an appeal or not, the US Justice Department needs to be sued for criminal negligence in this political coverup of a murdered Washington intern.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Lawsuits Reply with quote

I think that this is one of the reasons the government has been trying to pin this on a patsy. Several branches of law enforcement may have put themselves in a position to be sued.

Moreover, no one has proven that Chandra was murdered on and/or around May 1, 2001. So, if she were still alive days and/or weeks after that date, wouldn't the governmental law enforcement agencies have made themselves an even greater target for lawsuits, because they did not do anything to prevent Chandra's death? What do you all think?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, Rainbow - aren't those agencies pretty much impervious to lawsuits?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Lawsuit Track Record Reply with quote

Wasn't the DC MPD sued because of the way the Gallaudet University murder(s) case was handled? And, didn't this happen not too long before Chandra's disappearance?


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VARNER v. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIAWillie VARNER, et al., Appellants, v. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, et al., Appellees.


No. 04-CV-488, 04-CV-547.

Argued Dec. 7, 2005. -- February 02, 2006
Before SCHWELB and FARRELL, Associate Judges, and NEBEKER, Senior Judge.



Detective Greene further stated that, in his opinion, “the way that Defendant District of Columbia employees handled the Plunkett murder was grossly below the required, necessary, and acceptable standard of care and showed disregard for the safety of the students at Gallaudet ․” It was Greene's opinion that “had the homicide investigation followed standard procedures, [then] within a reasonable degree of investigative certainty, the murder of Benjamin Varner would not have taken place.”
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:58 am    Post subject: Legal Trouble for D.C. Preceding Levy Case Reply with quote

More about the lawsuit that preceeded the Levy investigation
from

The Free Library, by Farlex

The cops finally got Rep. Gary Condit to acknowledge an intimate
relationship with intern Chandra Levy. But that didn't bring them closer
to solving the mystery of what happened to her. The road to Condit's
admission.

By Michael Isikoff

An Affair to Remember

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lC6xEbaprecJ:www.thefreelibrary.com/U.S.%2BAttorney's%2BOffice%2Bin%2BWashington%2BHas%2BAssigned%2Ba%2BVeteran%2BHomicide...-a076378060+gallaudet+and+chandra+levy&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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A more likely theory: that Levy was the victim of a violent street crime. There is no shortage of them in Washington, and the police have sometimes mishandled such cases. Just last month prosecutors tried four men for grabbing Vidalina Semino, a 54-year-old hotel waitress, off the street as she walked to her car not far from Chandra's neighborhood. According to police, the men forced Semino into the trunk of their car and then, after stealing her ATM card An ATM card (also known as a bank card, client card, or cash card) is an ISO 7810 card issued by a bank, credit union or building society.

Its primary uses are:

, shot her and dumped her body in the woods several miles away. The police investigation did not go smoothly. At first, one of the officers misidentified Semino as being black, delaying identification of the body and stalling the probe. They then arrested the wrong man, who sued the city for $60 million. (In the end, two of the men were convicted; the cases of the other two ended in mistrialA courtroom trial that has been terminated prior to its normal conclusion. A mistrial has no legal effect and is considered an invalid or nugatory trial. It differs from a "new trial," which recognizes that a trial was completed but was set aside so that the issues could be
..... Click the link for more information..) In another recent case, police arrested the wrong man in the murder of a Gallaudet UniversityGallaudet University, at Washington, D.C.; coeducational; with federal support. It was founded (1856) as the Kendall School, a training school for deaf and blind students, by Edward Miner Gallaudet (see under Gallaudet, Thomas Hopkins).
..... Click the link for more information. student and overlooked key evidence in the case. As police struggled to solve the murder, Newsweek has learned, Ramsey called a top FBI official and asked for help. "I don't have confidence in my department's ability to handle this," he told the Feds. (Assistant Chief Gainer says those problems have been corrected.)

Ramsey didn't wait nearly as long to ask the FBI for help in finding Chandra Levy. So far, though, the Feds haven't had any more luck than the locals in cracking the case. "The real issue is the body," says one law-enforcement source. "We have no clues. This case may not break until someday, somebody will be out walking in the woods or out fishing, and they'll find what we're looking for." All of Washington may be working overtime trying to find Chandra, but the cold truth is that even Condit's admission isn't likely to end the Levy family's nightmare any time soon.
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