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jane



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Post-Trial news about Guandique Reply with quote

http://www.wtop.com/?sid=2129866&nid=25
Guandique's attorneys given extension for appeal
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Appeal Deadline Extension Reply with quote

That's good. November 29 is way too short notice.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little levity...


In a telephone interview, Condit's lawyer Bert Fields said the verdict represents a vindication that comes too late to repair the damage his client's career. Still, trial testimony that Condit's DNA was on underwear at Levy's apartment bolstered the idea that the married politician had an affair with the intern.

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http://www2.wsls.com/news/2010/nov/22/7/jury-reaches-verdict-chandra-levy-murder-trial-ar-670118/


(Google - Bertam Fields is an American lawyer famous for his work in the field of entertainment)

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I rest my case (got a chuckle out of that for some reason...)

ls

Scroll down at the above link to this:

Defense lawyers argued that Morales concocted the confession story to curry favor with prosecutors. While Morales has not received any benefit for his testimony, prosecutors could seek to reduce his jail time in the future.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, Comp 101!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like reduced jail time is a negative thing. I keep trying to compose a reply, but how to respond to all the double-speak they dish up? Arghhh!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Armando Morales Reply with quote

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/25/1942695/for-key-trial-witness-a-new-beginning.html

Here's an interesting article on Mr. Morales. Should be interesting to see if he has really turned his life around.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: False Confessions Reply with quote

The prosecutor said that Guandique had a "signature confession style". In my book, any so-called "confessions" made by Guandique would be more akin to the "John-Mark Karr" syndrome (Jon-Benet Ramsey case), as Skipper once alluded to, or to the just plain "protection from other inmates" syndrome.

Guandique looked kind of "pretty" (in the eyes of gang-bangers) and "wimpy" before he went to prison, as evidenced in the photos taken in the park by his girlfriend that Jane recently posted.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The public defender defense lawyers should have gone through all those alleged confessions in excrutiating detail.

They should have wore out that dag nabbed bunch of ditzy bored jurors with excrutiating detail the DC prosecutors used to get an indictment and brainwash the public as Guandique the monster using the Washington Post.

And that's just a start. The fact the jurors have no clue what it takes to go from searching on Condit and Rock Creek Park to being 238 feet down the hillside from grove 18 up on Ridge Road is inexcusable and unforgiveable.

This includes everyone who unknowingly, unthinkingly, and uncaringly placed her there with no regard to her and what Chandra was in life. At no point did the public and jurors understand what a trained criminologist Chandra was, and an applicant to the FBI.

It is unforgiveable what has been done to Chandra's memory.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do kind of feel for Guandique. In fact, I'm going to start calling him Ingmar. He was beat up by his mother and stepfather when he was young. He had learning disabilities. That actually means he has intelligence (if your IQ is low, they don't say you have learning disabilities). He likes to draw - he probably didn't get much encouragement with that ability.

I wonder what he had for Thanksgiving Dinner.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, but if I were him I'd be asking El Salvador to pressure the United States government on sending their Salvadoran lynching victim back home where they could deal with him.

The United States would probably be happy to oblige, smugly satiisfied that they have "solved" Chandra's murder.

The United States is circling the drain anyway, this is just another indication of lack of integrity.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horwitz and Higham write another piece on poor Gary Condit. They are dismayed that news is still about Condit when they thought they cleared him I guess.

Interesting in this, Horwitz talks about the bracelet and Condit's testimony, but doesn't mention she "found" it in Chandra's possessions held by police all these years.

I still think it's extremely unhelpful that Chandra's parents don't even know what was in her possessions, or if they do, didn't point out that they didn't see the bracelet and the DC police didn't find the bracelet.

Condit talks about handing out bracelets to constituents but only bracelets known to be handed out were to mistresses. It does take statements to a whole new level when you have that many mistresses among your constituents.

The article is fairly evenly written, but again, every nuance is misleading. They talk about DC police searching an aide's car. That aide was Dayton, but it was Condit's car, "moneylaundered" under Dayton's name and kept at his house in Alexandria when Condit wasn't using it.

We, and DC police, know this from Anne Marie Smith. Prior to that, Condit told police he didn't have a car.

Condit is a walking plausible deniability. He is the lowest of scum.

My questions on where that car was Tuesday afternoon, May 1, along with Condit, still stand, and still unanswered.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/24/AR2010112404515.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also in Washington Post, a letter from Deirdre M. Enright and Matthew L. Engle, directors of the Innocence Project at University of Virginia School of Law.

They state what we have stated in our analysis, but hopefully will help follow through on overturning this government run amuck travesty of justice.

And again, as always, it is as much Chandra that was treated with a travesty of justice as Gaundique. In fact, no juror should have considered it reasonable that Chandra was there, not that they have any idea where "there" is.

Just massive failing all the way around.

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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-opinions/2010/11/miracle_conviction_or_one_more.html
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/nov/26/usa-washington-dc

Interesting article. I'm posting a few excerpts and comments:

    ....a homeless Latino man later identified as Guandique who'd been stalking and stealing from female joggers in Rock Creek Park, including one who had fought him off and escaped the very day that Levy disappeared....


    ....An investigation by the Los Angeles Times a decade ago revealed that some police departments were in the habit of deliberately planting informants in cells with prisoners who had never been convicted of more serious crimes like murder, with the express intent of eliciting a "confession". The US supreme court has ruled that informants in this setting are de facto police interrogators, and therefore, the practice violates the targeted inmate's due process rights, including their right to have a lawyer present during questioning. But many police departments, the Times found, simply disguise their planting of informants, knowing that it rarely comes to light.

    The Times report documented numerous instances where jailhouse informants had elicited "confessions" that turned out never to have occurred, in exchange for a lighter sentence. The potential for abuse is ever-present, but its effects are especially pernicious when no other physical evidence links the accused person to the crime to which they have supposedly confessed. This was the case with Guandique....


    ....Critics of the trial, like Maryland attorney Gladys Weatherspoon, who represented Guandique in his earlier defence, says she is stunned and appalled by the jury's verdict. In addition to the obvious evidential problems, she says the jury was not allowed to hear that Guandique had once passed a lie detector test or that police had ruled him out of any role in Levy's death at the time they had charged him with the two robberies.

    "This case isn't what it appears to be, and it should never have come to trial," Weatherspoon told me. She accuses the jury and the judge of being swayed by their emotional identification with the defendant and the other robbery victims, and by what she sees as their susceptibility to a wish to allow the Levy family, especially Chandra's mother, obtain "closure" in the case....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: Guandique excluded! Reply with quote

Gladys Weatherspoon, the attorney that is named in the Guardian UK article Jane lists above, shares some very important information. She points out the fact that Guandique was completely cleared of Chandra's murder, prior to his being arrested for the jogger attacks.
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